first time out with the 'new' camaro...
04-07-2007, 12:19 AM
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first time out with the 'new' camaro... Well, took my 'new' ls1 z28 out for the first time. holy hell i can't get any traction. i have a couple cell phone videos, but i'm waiting for someone i video messaged to download it for me. i think next up are some bolt-in relo brackets and some drag radials. cheap and easy :shrug: check out my results and tell me what you guys think. based on numbers i see around here, i think i ran what was expected for something near stock.
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i really want to get to eatonton or paradise soon(GA tracks), a few have told me you can make a dozen runs no problem there. should give me a chance to practice my RT and 60' time. this time out i wasn't concentrating on making a good RT, after that first run i realized i needed to concentrate on getting out of the hole without peeling out or peddling too much.
Atlanta Dragway
Commerce, GA
4-6-07
Alt: 1003 feet
Temp: 37F, 'feels like' 27F.
2001 Z28 A4 2.73 lid, random tech catback, piston slap :p
Run 1: sideways out of the hole, whoops! raced audi quattro w/ loud BOV 12.755 @ 109.75 FTL.
RT .530
60' 2.4
330 6.178
1/8 9.193
mph 82.88
1000 11.733
1/4 13.874
mph 104.74
Run 2: peddled it out way, way too slow. raced against loud BOV turbo S13 13.278 @ 111.94 also FTL.
RT .476
60' 2.654
330 6.519
1/8 9.561
mph 82.08
1000 12.122
1/4 14.277
mph 104.11
Run 3: peeled out of the hole, then peddled slow. raced a 5-speed fox body stang that went 13.188 @ 104.42. still FTMFL.
RT .354
60' 2.478
330 6.251
1/8 9.279
mph 82.43
1000 11.829
1/4 13.984
mph 103.75
Run 4: skipped the tires some, peddled out slower. raced same fox body stang that flew out of the hole, but was closing gap starting 1/8th mile mark. stang was 13.433 @ 102.73. FTL-4-ever.
RT .457
60' 2.434
330 6.158
1/8 9.167
mph 82.75
1000 11.713
1/4 13.856
mph 104.67
mph 104.74
Commerce, GA
4-6-07
Alt: 1003 feet
Temp: 37F, 'feels like' 27F.
2001 Z28 A4 2.73 lid, random tech catback, piston slap :p
Run 1: sideways out of the hole, whoops! raced audi quattro w/ loud BOV 12.755 @ 109.75 FTL.
RT .530
60' 2.4
330 6.178
1/8 9.193
mph 82.88
1000 11.733
1/4 13.874
mph 104.74
Run 2: peddled it out way, way too slow. raced against loud BOV turbo S13 13.278 @ 111.94 also FTL.
RT .476
60' 2.654
330 6.519
1/8 9.561
mph 82.08
1000 12.122
1/4 14.277
mph 104.11
Run 3: peeled out of the hole, then peddled slow. raced a 5-speed fox body stang that went 13.188 @ 104.42. still FTMFL.
RT .354
60' 2.478
330 6.251
1/8 9.279
mph 82.43
1000 11.829
1/4 13.984
mph 103.75
Run 4: skipped the tires some, peddled out slower. raced same fox body stang that flew out of the hole, but was closing gap starting 1/8th mile mark. stang was 13.433 @ 102.73. FTL-4-ever.
RT .457
60' 2.434
330 6.158
1/8 9.167
mph 82.75
1000 11.713
1/4 13.856
mph 104.67
mph 104.74
addendum:
i really want to get to eatonton or paradise soon(GA tracks), a few have told me you can make a dozen runs no problem there. should give me a chance to practice my RT and 60' time. this time out i wasn't concentrating on making a good RT, after that first run i realized i needed to concentrate on getting out of the hole without peeling out or peddling too much.
04-07-2007, 02:46 AM
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These cars are notoriously hard to launch off the line with a manual. You should be able to cut a 2.2 sec. 60' if you just do a 1K rpm launch and roll into the throttle. Some people see 2.1 sec. and lower 60' with the manual cars, but I think you need decent track prep to do it, and I have never seen any tracks in my area with decent track prep.
Your car is easily a mid 13 sec. ride with traction.
Your car is easily a mid 13 sec. ride with traction.
04-07-2007, 10:06 AM
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i have an A4. people at the track said the prep sucked. if only i coudl hook and launch like the stang did in run 3 and 4, i think i could beat him in the top end. i felt like i was closing in on him fast. maybe low 13? :shrug:
i was thinking some slicks and relo brackets, what do you think? would tubular LCAs help any or is it mostly just the relo brackets? i have a pinion angle gauge, but don't know how to use it. i bought it to set up a new rear end for the nova, but haven't done it yet.
i was thinking some slicks and relo brackets, what do you think? would tubular LCAs help any or is it mostly just the relo brackets? i have a pinion angle gauge, but don't know how to use it. i bought it to set up a new rear end for the nova, but haven't done it yet.
04-08-2007, 02:29 AM
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Ehh slicks with the 10 bolt aren't a good idea. Put on some BFG DR's, heat them up a good 4-5 sec. and then just tech it to 1500rpms, and roll into the throttle. The relocation bracket will help out for the lower control arms (I believe that is what you are referring to putting in). That will help with wheelhop, if you have it. I had to do lower control arms and a panhard rod. Thinking back on it I probably should have gotten a relocation bracket, to put into my car, to make sure the car transfers weight better.
If you get a stall converter (Nothing too outrageous, just barely above 3K), you will see some wicked times with your car. M6 drivers like myself have to peddle the crap out of their car off the line, and you'll have no problems launching w/ dr's and a stall. Just my advise (Also, don't really bother with gears, just get the stall, if you want fuel mileage).
If you get a stall converter (Nothing too outrageous, just barely above 3K), you will see some wicked times with your car. M6 drivers like myself have to peddle the crap out of their car off the line, and you'll have no problems launching w/ dr's and a stall. Just my advise (Also, don't really bother with gears, just get the stall, if you want fuel mileage).
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DR's are more up my alley IMO. what's the weakest thing in our rear end? carrier? axles? i hear of some people using those HD diffy covers to put preload on the caps. is that worth it? i know axles are like $250, if that's what breaks in our rears. $2k is kinda hard to swallow on a moser or strange, lol.
with DRs, i was thinking of getting 15s since i would be able to share them with the nova. the taller sidewall should be better for more wrinkle, wouldn't it? at least that's the way i learned it.
i don't think i have wheelhop, but relo(cation) brackets should help force the tires down into the ground more. quick question - have you seen tha lakewood anti-hop bars? looks to be regular LCAs with a caltrac/slide-a-link part built in. junk or no?
i'd rather do stall before gears, i agree. but i'd probably wait to do the stall until much later after the nova gets its electrical and paint done, and a rear end
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with DRs, i was thinking of getting 15s since i would be able to share them with the nova. the taller sidewall should be better for more wrinkle, wouldn't it? at least that's the way i learned it.
i don't think i have wheelhop, but relo(cation) brackets should help force the tires down into the ground more. quick question - have you seen tha lakewood anti-hop bars? looks to be regular LCAs with a caltrac/slide-a-link part built in. junk or no?
i'd rather do stall before gears, i agree. but i'd probably wait to do the stall until much later after the nova gets its electrical and paint done, and a rear end
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Originally Posted by burningsquirrels
i have an A4. people at the track said the prep sucked. if only i coudl hook and launch like the stang did in run 3 and 4, i think i could beat him in the top end. i felt like i was closing in on him fast. maybe low 13? :shrug:
i was thinking some slicks and relo brackets, what do you think? would tubular LCAs help any or is it mostly just the relo brackets? i have a pinion angle gauge, but don't know how to use it. i bought it to set up a new rear end for the nova, but haven't done it yet.
i was thinking some slicks and relo brackets, what do you think? would tubular LCAs help any or is it mostly just the relo brackets? i have a pinion angle gauge, but don't know how to use it. i bought it to set up a new rear end for the nova, but haven't done it yet.
04-08-2007, 03:21 PM
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Another vote for DR's over the slicks. Axles and gears are what usually break in the 10-bolt. A rear end girdle will help the carrier from walking some. A converter will help the car get much better 60 foots with traction, but I'd concentrate on hooking up first with what you have. My A4 Formula has gone 1.93 on a bone stock suspension, 3.23 gears and M/T sportsman pros at 20 psi with a short burnout. 15" wheels to share with the Nova are a possibility, but keep in mind some 15" wheels will require you grinding the Camaro's brake calipers to fit them, and the backspacing needed (most 15 x 8 rims need 5.5 backspacing for an F-body) may be too much for the Nova (ask me how I know, see sig)!
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04-08-2007, 04:34 PM
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i knew about the backspacing thing, but didn't think about clearing the rear brakes. doh!
maybe beforei buy slicks i should buy a spare rear end first lol
maybe beforei buy slicks i should buy a spare rear end first lol