WS6TransAm01

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Yes, your car is slower that it should be, but the one thing I never understood is how everyone claims these cars weight so much. 3900lbs?

When my car was stock, with my 130lbs *** 1/4 tank of gas, no jack and no spare the car was 3450 on the Englishtown scales. The only think that may have made it lighter was the SLP LoudMouth exhaust in place of the stock WS.6 one. My friends t-top Formula was 3500lbs on the same scale, he weighed about 180.

How the hell is your car 3900lbs. Do you weight close to 400lbs? I just dont understand these retarded claims. I never did. And I have been hearing them for nearly over 7 years now.

Stop making excuses using the weight card and just admit that your car is not running right.

Once again, im sorry for ranting, but hearing these outrageous weight claims is getting ridiculous.

WizeAss

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You fellas are harsh... on slicks and skinnies the car ran a 7.31@94 or 95mph with 3790 raceweight. I weight approx 90lbs more than the other driver. He was on a 455rwhp motor tune. He ran on the bottle a 150 shot with 6.6@103 or so pass with 565rwhp.

Friday night I added the passenger seat back in and put over 20lbs to each corner in the form of TT2's with drag radials. The car normally runs 7.5's on that setup at 93mph or so...... Yet that was with 430rwhp not the 455... I am sure it will do a 7.4 on that setup and with the 150 shot drop to a 6.7.... now does that seem right to you fellas? Keep in mind it is almost 3900lbs with driver as proved by the scales.

The 6.6 run may have been better if the button was not on the shifter and on a WOT at the time for him. He also had an issue with a 300rpm shift delay. So assumptively we can say he woulda ran a 6.5-6.60 on that setup. I hope that with another 100-150 shot on top of that I can get to a bottom 6.... and move some weight out to get that 5.99 or 6.0X in the future.

WizeAss

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AFR's are a better head... and much more expensive.

Flow numbers aren't everything. My heads have terrible velocity with the 265-270cc intake ports.................. but it doesnt hurt so much on the jug one would think.

Elite_Hot_Rod

First off it's really hot and humid here now, when we get some cooler weather he'll pick up 2-3 tenths and his car is a heavy pig. The scales you weighed on were probably not set up for a 101" wheel base car so they wouldn't be correct. My tin can race car weighs 3250 LBS with a 135 LBS driver and 2 25 LBS lead weight plates and 5 gallons of race gas in the cell so it weighs approx. 3025 LBS empty. I find it hard to believe your car weighs 3450 with you in it and no weight reduction. His car definitely has more in it, they are just now starting to get it dialed in.

daniel6718

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my stock motor on a n20 tune went 7.50 and 115 shot it went 6.6


it wouldent have gone 1.4 with more bottle pressure i hope you know...more power more spin

7420NW7TH

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I won't be happy until my heavy pig runs 10.90s all motor.

Elite_Hot_Rod

And he was probably on a N20 tune running on motor, just a guess though.

7420NW7TH

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I never caught how much nitrous he was running, 100 shot?

7420NW7TH

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What are the specs of your buddies cam? (sorry for the hijack)

WizeAss

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bingo... 42Xrwhp N2O tune vs the 455rwhp motor tune. the motor passes where not good for squat. Tire pressure was over 30psi and the car went straight onto the track after a 20+mile drive to the track and a brief rest from getting the tech card filled out. It still spun the radials due to the pressure. Like I said... it should knock off a 7.5 with those wheels/tire/weight combo. Def, since I have run those times before on that combo.

It is no racecar but I was sorta pleased with getting in the 6.81 range with the combo.

Picking up .7tenths off a 150 shot aint to shabby! That would be over 1 second in the 1/4.... I was sure the car would run a 11.5 or better on motor, so If I can get mid 10's off the small pills, I was hoping the pig could run some 9's on the larger ones.

WizeAss

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Bet money it woulda gone a 1.49..... my burnout sucked ***... mighta taken a few tries... but it woulda done it.

7420NW7TH

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Hey as long as your happy with it thats all that counts. **** on what anyone else says. its a nice car.

Since you dropped .7 on 150 shot, maybe you have some flow issues. Nitrous really wakes up a not-so-good set of heads. Or maybe your converter just likes the juice more than without it. Who knows?

But I agree with whats been said earlier about the tune, I've flashed rich and lean tunes back and forth at the track, and it didn't make a whole lot of difference in the times. Seems like it actually ran better rich! Go figure...

Magnet

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my car went 7.5's bolt on's only on drag radials...

WizeAss

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Def. not the norm. Most start around 8.5 and get down to 7's with a converter and cam. For a 6 speed it takes bolt ons and a cam. Getting to low 7's take a really loose verter or nitrous for most. Unless you have a dialed in suspension.

WizeAss

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I already know I have flow issues. The intake is restrictive and the heads are big.

s346k

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i don't get it. my bolt-on car went 7.7 with a converter and drag radials @ 3600lbs...~2500' DA.

a buddy of mine has a "cam only" 00 b4c on rock stock 171k mile suspension, wheels, etc etc etc - he went 6.95 @ 100 mph on a 100 shot. 10.8 @ 126 1/4 on that pass. it's a full weight car on the stock longblock, has headers, lid, true duals, g5x3. 323 gears yank 4k stall. 4l60e, no weight removal. BONE STOCK SUSPENSION. his is a "full weight street car" too. utilizing a stock tb, ls6 intake, stock (not even descreened) maf..

i don't get it. this 408 has problems and no one is telling this guy. no, he should not be happy with that result, as he could've achieved it with 20% of the time/money invested. it is a badass setup that should run HARD. it doesn't, and never will if no one tells him so.

NOSJNKY

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+1
Really should be faster. I have a similar setup in my white car(408,TH400,474RWHP NA) Race weight is 3820lb.s with NO weight reduction. It runs 6.7xx and 10.7xx(NA) and 6.2xx on a 125hp shot with mid 1.30 60's(barely dips in the 9's in the 1/4) always on 325 MT drag radials and 93 octane.It is also a daily driven car with AC so hacking it up is not an option for me. Your car seems to be a nice car but something seems to be amiss with the ETs. I run a good motor tune and pull timing with my timing tuner. I'm sure you'll get it figured out, good luck!

WizeAss

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With a 1.48 60ft it ran a 6.6 with a 150 shot......... Might have gone a 6.5 with a couple issues fixed. Does that seem closer to the norm?

I know the car needs suspension... it leaves like a brick, with no movement and barely lifts the front tires. I also know that it needs SFC's and new springs not the eibachs.

Elite_Hot_Rod

I'm calling bullshit on that. If you 1/8th mile time was a 6.2 your 1/4 time should be around a 9.6/9.7 not just barely in the 9's. And do the math at that weight you' d have to be making awhole lot of HP. Post the slip.

7420NW7TH

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