View Poll Results: What do you run, time and exhaust?
12's and up, Y/Catback
21
17.21%
12's and up, True Duals
15
12.30%
11's, Y/Catback
22
18.03%
11's, True Duals
13
10.66%
10's or less, Y/Catback
14
11.48%
10's or less, True Duals
24
19.67%
Other
13
10.66%
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What kind of exhaust are you running?
12-16-2008, 02:39 PM
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right now- pacesetter lt's w/ tsp true duals, sweet thunder mufflers- i hate it , leaks like crazy and is way too loud, drags on the ground etc..
had- pacesetter lt's w/ tsp ory, 3" cutout, to flowmaster muffler. MUCH quieter, leaked a little less but the cutout was always problems. pretty much hated that setup too because of leaks, and the e-cutout problems.
if you have the $ go custom x pipe over the axle by a good fabricator, whatever mufflers fit your taste. wish i did-
these motors just sound GREAT with the right exhaust. the leaks kill the whole thing.
had- pacesetter lt's w/ tsp ory, 3" cutout, to flowmaster muffler. MUCH quieter, leaked a little less but the cutout was always problems. pretty much hated that setup too because of leaks, and the e-cutout problems.
if you have the $ go custom x pipe over the axle by a good fabricator, whatever mufflers fit your taste. wish i did-
these motors just sound GREAT with the right exhaust. the leaks kill the whole thing.
12-16-2008, 03:07 PM
#22
you need a system like mine, 3.5 inch solid mounted tucked right on the floorboard, clearance is good, no leaks and it sounds great.
I put a motor plate on the car so the motor doesn't move, and there's no vibration and I bet the exhaust is a 1/16 off the floor in spots.
came out perfect
I put a motor plate on the car so the motor doesn't move, and there's no vibration and I bet the exhaust is a 1/16 off the floor in spots.
came out perfect
12-16-2008, 06:37 PM
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you need a system like mine, 3.5 inch solid mounted tucked right on the floorboard, clearance is good, no leaks and it sounds great.
I put a motor plate on the car so the motor doesn't move, and there's no vibration and I bet the exhaust is a 1/16 off the floor in spots.
came out perfect
I put a motor plate on the car so the motor doesn't move, and there's no vibration and I bet the exhaust is a 1/16 off the floor in spots.
came out perfect
post up some pics if you got em', you have my attention at least. maybe i'll copy it over the winter
12-18-2008, 10:06 AM
#26
Pacesetter headers and ORY to a Magnaflow catback. 400/367 SAE on a dynojet. 11.7s at 117 with 1.6 60's. The y-pipe fits better than just about anyone's y-pipe on this site in terms of ground clearance and floorboard clearance. And I'd bet money on it. That y-pipe was probably my favorite mod I've put on the car so far. In fact it's so great that I wouldn't even care if I found out it was costing me 5+ rwhp.
That y-pipe was probably my favorite mod I've put on the car so far. In fact it's so great that I wouldn't even care if I found out it was costing me 5+ rwhp.
12-18-2008, 12:16 PM
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12-18-2008, 01:21 PM
#29
If the old y pipe was hitting the floor, I'd be looking @ the tranny mount and the motor mounts, they're probably getting shot. Launching a stick car that has the tq arm bolted to the tranny tailhousing, is putting a load on the tranny and motor mounts like you don't even know.
Put a poly tranny and motor mount set on it and you need about 1/2 the exhaust clearance.
Do like I did, mount the exhaust solid on the floor and it will never rattle, it's the exhaust's ability to move that causes the rattles.
Solid mount everything = no rattles. Little vibration, but it's not that bad.
Put a poly tranny and motor mount set on it and you need about 1/2 the exhaust clearance.
Do like I did, mount the exhaust solid on the floor and it will never rattle, it's the exhaust's ability to move that causes the rattles.
Solid mount everything = no rattles. Little vibration, but it's not that bad.
12-18-2008, 01:43 PM
#31
If the old y pipe was hitting the floor, I'd be looking @ the tranny mount and the motor mounts, they're probably getting shot. Launching a stick car that has the tq arm bolted to the tranny tailhousing, is putting a load on the tranny and motor mounts like you don't even know.
Put a poly tranny and motor mount set on it and you need about 1/2 the exhaust clearance.
Do like I did, mount the exhaust solid on the floor and it will never rattle, it's the exhaust's ability to move that causes the rattles.
Solid mount everything = no rattles. Little vibration, but it's not that bad.
Put a poly tranny and motor mount set on it and you need about 1/2 the exhaust clearance.
Do like I did, mount the exhaust solid on the floor and it will never rattle, it's the exhaust's ability to move that causes the rattles.
Solid mount everything = no rattles. Little vibration, but it's not that bad.
That said, I just ordered the torque arm relocation crossmember for my car this morning on that kickass BMR sale so that's one less thing to worry about in terms of breaking the trans. But it is known for causing a lot more noise cruising, so we'll see how that goes when I put it in. The second this car becomes not fun to cruise around on nights and weekends and to and from the track, the mods start coming OFF it. Or I'll sell it and start over with a new bone stock vehicle.
12-18-2008, 02:19 PM
#32
That's an awful lot of work to take care of a problem that doesn't exist anymore and might pick me up a couple hp at best, or possibly none at all. And I know exactly what you're saying about the torque arm and trans moving, but I can tell you for a fact that the clunking on the floorboards I was hearing was the y-pipe hitting underneath the driver's seat. Ron's does the same thing. It was a CONSISTENT sound every time I drove it with the old y-pipe and from the second I swapped the new one on, I never heard the sound again.
That said, I just ordered the torque arm relocation crossmember for my car this morning on that kickass BMR sale so that's one less thing to worry about in terms of breaking the trans. But it is known for causing a lot more noise cruising, so we'll see how that goes when I put it in. The second this car becomes not fun to cruise around on nights and weekends and to and from the track, the mods start coming OFF it. Or I'll sell it and start over with a new bone stock vehicle.
That said, I just ordered the torque arm relocation crossmember for my car this morning on that kickass BMR sale so that's one less thing to worry about in terms of breaking the trans. But it is known for causing a lot more noise cruising, so we'll see how that goes when I put it in. The second this car becomes not fun to cruise around on nights and weekends and to and from the track, the mods start coming OFF it. Or I'll sell it and start over with a new bone stock vehicle.
lolAnd yes my car is slow, blah, blah, blah.
12-18-2008, 03:13 PM
#34
While you have that crossmember off I'd put a poly tranny mount on.
The motor mounts and that poly tranny mount would have stopped the y pipe from banging.
Next time you have your car here, I'm gonna have you watch the engine, and I'm gonna sit in the car and punch the gas a couple times. When you see how much the motor moves now imagine that with the load of the car on the motor, it probably doubles the movement.
The poly motor mounts stop that, and would also stop the y pipe bang as well.
The motor mounts and that poly tranny mount would have stopped the y pipe from banging.
Next time you have your car here, I'm gonna have you watch the engine, and I'm gonna sit in the car and punch the gas a couple times. When you see how much the motor moves now imagine that with the load of the car on the motor, it probably doubles the movement.
The poly motor mounts stop that, and would also stop the y pipe bang as well.
12-18-2008, 06:33 PM
#35
While you have that crossmember off I'd put a poly tranny mount on.
The motor mounts and that poly tranny mount would have stopped the y pipe from banging.
Next time you have your car here, I'm gonna have you watch the engine, and I'm gonna sit in the car and punch the gas a couple times. When you see how much the motor moves now imagine that with the load of the car on the motor, it probably doubles the movement.
The poly motor mounts stop that, and would also stop the y pipe bang as well.
The motor mounts and that poly tranny mount would have stopped the y pipe from banging.
Next time you have your car here, I'm gonna have you watch the engine, and I'm gonna sit in the car and punch the gas a couple times. When you see how much the motor moves now imagine that with the load of the car on the motor, it probably doubles the movement.
The poly motor mounts stop that, and would also stop the y pipe bang as well.
12-19-2008, 04:52 AM
#37
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
There ya go, 98.99 for the motor mounts and the tranny mount, complete kit, do it all @ once and call it a day.
There ya go, 98.99 for the motor mounts and the tranny mount, complete kit, do it all @ once and call it a day.