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Old May 7, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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whats the lowest hp you have ever heard of someone lifting both front wheels at? not necessarily sky high, just both off the ground.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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I've seen a 17sec S10 pull one wheel off the ground launching. Just proves that high hp is not necessary
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I make 380 and the car is heavy. I have a vid on a camera which ever so slightly showed a OEM WS.6 17" rim pick up off the ground. I was impressed when my car did it on a Nitto, but I really picked up when I put the bias ply on and a set of skinnies.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/eastern-m...ay-new-pb.html

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Old May 7, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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I'll bet you can do it with the stock motor and the right suspension, tires etc.
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Or enough weight out of the front end
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or enough gear in the rear and get it to hook
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Old May 7, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tektrans
I'll bet you can do it with the stock motor and the right suspension, tires etc.
True. When I was running IHRA Pure Stock with my untouched LT1 I would pull both front tires about 3".
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I would vote for:

correct susp geometry, enough tire, big enough stall
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
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correct susp geometry, enough tire, big enough stall
Adding to that, Rear end gearing, and weight stubraction, from the front mostly.
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I've pulled the wheels on "stock internals" cars with slicks on the back, both had 4.11's and had some weight reduction.
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
Adding to that, Rear end gearing, and weight stubraction, from the front mostly.
not starting an argument, but I would think stock weight on front could be made up with a change in rear suspension geometry. Gearing tends to go along with tire and converter.
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yea its really all in the suspension and a M6 or A4 can do it just takes seat time.
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a good amount of torque will also help you pull the wheels. hp helps more on the top end and torque is your hole shot
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I was running 12.2's and on the video I lifted the stock ws.6 tires just a bit. I was making 380hp then.
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Originally Posted by tektrans
I'll bet you can do it with the stock motor and the right suspension, tires etc.
Yup
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a good amount of torque will also help you pull the wheels. hp helps more on the top end and torque is your hole shot
that's why you get a torque converter with a high stall and high stall ratio. tougher with a m6 (it can high stall but it has a stall ratio of 1:1) so you're stuck with whatever the motor can make on its own.
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
not starting an argument, but I would think stock weight on front could be made up with a change in rear suspension geometry. Gearing tends to go along with tire and converter.
I agree but taking stuff out or relocating = neglible cost.

I learned that trick running classes that had weight requirements. You cant be under a certain amount but you can remove it and add balast.
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Why do you want to "pull the front wheels"
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Originally Posted by tektrans
I'll bet you can do it with the stock motor and the right suspension, tires etc.
I agree.
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spray will do it.
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