Drag Racing Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Just purchased a Gear Vendors overdrive unit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-18-2009, 07:58 AM
  #41  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Firehawk441
haha, first I gotta do it, then we'll drink!
Old 08-18-2009, 12:12 PM
  #42  
Gingervitis Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
slow67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tektrans
can you get a 8" or a 9" for the 4L80E?
With a good converter guy you can get any size you want. They will just put the specific snout for the transmission being used. My 4l80 has a 9.5" converter.
Old 08-18-2009, 04:34 PM
  #43  
10 Second Club
 
tals7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: se mich(pluto)
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Smile

neal chance.i will call and see what they offer for my app.what intake do use now?.i just got my lsxr 102/102.guys at thomsons are going to install soon.thanks for good info.
Old 08-19-2009, 12:20 PM
  #44  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I have an appointment next week for the GV install!!!!!!
Old 08-19-2009, 12:26 PM
  #45  
Moderator
iTrader: (13)
 
thechef's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: milford,CT
Posts: 4,718
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

cant wait to see the results, your car on some spray will be FAST.....
Old 08-20-2009, 01:50 AM
  #46  
Banned
iTrader: (36)
 
daniel6718's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: garland tx
Posts: 3,760
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

i would have to say trying to shift one unit then the tranny then the unit then the tranny then the unit would be too much of a hasesl and i think if you could it would slow you down more than anything...

id build a 60-e before one of these...few people have made it 5's with one...ive been trapping 110 in the 1/8 for ove 2 years with a 60-e...lockup converter im at 2300 at 80mph with 3.90s i believe
Old 08-20-2009, 08:04 AM
  #47  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

It's supposed to make the car ET better, not slow you down and I think rowing gears would be much harder than hitting a button but we will see.
4L80E is not totally out of the question if this doesn't work out and I have to read it again but there is a return policy if it doesn't work the way they said.
One thing the GV can do that the 4L80 can't is give you OD at the track and with my N/A gear/converter having the OD option for a shot of nitrous is a nice luxury. Best of both worlds.
Like I said, we'll see.
Old 08-20-2009, 09:51 AM
  #48  
Gingervitis Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
slow67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tektrans
One thing the GV can do that the 4L80 can't is give you OD at the track and with my N/A gear/converter having the OD option for a shot of nitrous is a nice luxury. Best of both worlds.
Like I said, we'll see.
Actually 4L80Es have a decently strong OD. Much better than the 4L60. How much power do you make?
Old 08-20-2009, 10:34 AM
  #49  
Banned
iTrader: (36)
 
daniel6718's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: garland tx
Posts: 3,760
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

80e first is long and will hurt a na car id assume slightly..

my 60-e has helt over 700hp in 4th gear all the way till the revlimitor with 28's on it in my car...
Old 08-20-2009, 02:53 PM
  #50  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by daniel6718
80e first is long and will hurt a na car id assume slightly..

my 60-e has helt over 700hp in 4th gear all the way till the revlimitor with 28's on it in my car...
I would only use the OD on the nitrous passes, with the 150 shot I will be just around 900 fwhp. I've never heard of anybody shifting into OD full throttle at the track at any power level with a 4 speed auto but maybe it's been done with the 4L80? I don't know.

chef, I hope she goes REAL Fast, hehe
Old 08-20-2009, 04:38 PM
  #51  
Gingervitis Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
slow67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tektrans
I would only use the OD on the nitrous passes, with the 150 shot I will be just around 900 fwhp. I've never heard of anybody shifting into OD full throttle at the track at any power level with a 4 speed auto but maybe it's been done with the 4L80? I don't know.

chef, I hope she goes REAL Fast, hehe
Mightymouse has done it lots of times, and he is somewhere around 1200fwhp.
Old 08-20-2009, 05:22 PM
  #52  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by slow67
Mightymouse has done it lots of times, and he is somewhere around 1200fwhp.
cool. Good to know, might wanna go that way eventually.

So what's your set up? hp, 60', et with the 4L80E. How's it workin'?
Old 08-20-2009, 09:53 PM
  #53  
Gingervitis Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
slow67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tektrans
cool. Good to know, might wanna go that way eventually.

So what's your set up? hp, 60', et with the 4L80E. How's it workin'?
Haha its slow. Im setting up the drivetrain for next year.
Old 08-21-2009, 07:00 AM
  #54  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by slow67
Haha its slow. Im setting up the drivetrain for next year.


I think that in the case of the 4L80E and I'm gonna call Rossler today to clarify the pros and the cons but I'm going to bet that yes with higher hp cars (I don't consider my car with a small shot making 900 fwhp to be a high hp combo) that the 4L80E would be a better choice over a 3 speed GV combo if you can shift into OD at the track. I'm also going to ask about converter sizes etc. I'll post up what I find out from the horses mouth later today.
Old 08-21-2009, 09:22 AM
  #55  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Just got off the phone with Rossler, 1st let me say these guys are so nice there, everytime I call with a question or for info, whatever they always take the time to talk and help anyway they can. Never rush you-very professional, very polite.

Ok, their set up for over 1200 hp-soup to nutz t brake, hardened input shaft, manual shift, upgraded internals etc. will run around 5k.

You would be able to run a converter 9-9 1/2", anything smaller is doable but you loose the lock up capability so even in OD-no lock up.

The 4L80E weighs around 90lbs more than a th350 and 70lbs more than a th400.
The 4L80E will have more hp loss through it than a th350 or th400.
The 4L80E allows you to shift into OD at the track BUT Rossler doesn't recommend that for anything more than 900 fwhp.
The 4L80E is not as efficient as a th350 or th400 equipped with a GV unit "as per Rossler" and they said that for my particular set up my trans/gv combo is the better choice BUT-he would like it better if I had a th400 in the car for the added power as I will be pretty much maxing out the th350 hovering around 900 fwhp.

Rossler said for a street driven high hp car the 4L80E is a great trans but will still be heavier and less efficient than a th400 with a gv but can be computer controlled which is definately a plus.

Learned alot with all the input in here-Good stuff!
Old 08-21-2009, 03:38 PM
  #56  
10 Second Club
 
tals7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: se mich(pluto)
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Smile

ya computer control is what sold me on 4l85e.i use the tci controler which gives me total control over trans + you can data log with it.i was kind of upset at how much power it ate but oh well.i have hit od locked up seems to be ok.just my 2 cents.gv unit idea still sounds cool.
Old 08-21-2009, 03:48 PM
  #57  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tals7
ya computer control is what sold me on 4l85e.i use the tci controler which gives me total control over trans + you can data log with it.i was kind of upset at how much power it ate but oh well.i have hit od locked up seems to be ok.just my 2 cents.gv unit idea still sounds cool.
my car was originally an m6 and when we put a 4L60E in it I had the tci unit. It's a real cool piece, shift points, logging, firmness etc. definatley a nice set up ya got there.
Old 08-21-2009, 05:01 PM
  #58  
Gingervitis Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
slow67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tektrans
my car was originally an m6 and when we put a 4L60E in it I had the tci unit. It's a real cool piece, shift points, logging, firmness etc. definatley a nice set up ya got there.
Yeah, I have my factory pcm controlling my 80e.
Old 08-21-2009, 08:38 PM
  #59  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
tektrans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by slow67
Yeah, I have my factory pcm controlling my 80e.
I'd like to see some track times come outta that set up of yours.
Get to work bro'!
Old 08-21-2009, 11:00 PM
  #60  
Gingervitis Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
slow67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tektrans
I'd like to see some track times come outta that set up of yours.
Get to work bro'!
Haha waiting for tax time. Best so far with the 80e in my car is 8.1@89 mph with a tired ls1.


Quick Reply: Just purchased a Gear Vendors overdrive unit



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:19 PM.