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and to the op i agree with everone put some kind of interior in the car and if you do remove door bars atleast have a cage to take its place
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You can do it the ghetto way and you can do it the right way. My car should be around 2875-2900lbs with me in it once it is rolling. That's with stock front seats, all of the interior panels, AC, PS, carpet, stock suspension, wheels, and tires. Eventually, I've calculated around 2680-2750 with AC, PS, carpet, and all of the interior panels.
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your braking will be reduced significantly with skinnies up front, ABS is not needed at all.
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P.S. Skinnies is not smart on a DD. You lose quite a bit in braking and steering response if you ask me. I don't think ABS stops working... it just kicks on a lot sooner I think.
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Read the 93 thread in my sig. I have it all down step by step of what I've removed by the car with, "crack scale" accuracy on the weights.
List roughly =
Front Bumper Support = 25.375 lbs
Fog lights and brackets = 4.0625 lbs
Cruise control, cable, and throttle cable cover = 4.4375 lbs
Air pump and brass fittings = 5.9375 lbs
Stock horns = 1.875 lbs
Stupid siren and loud horn = 2.5 lbs
Stock Y pipe and single cat = 21.1875 lbs
Frame horns = 5.125 lbs
Fender metal = 1.25 lbs
Rear Seatbelts = 4.1375 lbs
Aftermarket Speaker Wiring (will be added to considering there is a ton more of it) = .25 lbs
Carpet = 29.0375 lbs
Windshield washer fluid reservoir with water = 8.0625 lbs
Heat shields beneath the car = 2.1875
Soon to be useless exhaust hangers = 2.00 lbs
Rear Seats = 22.4375 lbs
Random exhaust hangers, brackets, nuts, and bolts = 9.25 lbs
Front Speakers = 2.75 lbs
Rear Speakers = 3.25 lbs
Front Speaker Brackets = 1.25 lbs
Interior brackets including (rear seat brackets, antenna bracket, rear seat belt brackets) = 3.875 lbs
Security System Hood Lock = 2.6875 lbs
Antenna + Wire (not including the actual metal rod) = .25lbs
Stock catback = 50.1875lbs
Rear Armrests = 4.21875lbs
Extra Metal Trimmings = 1.00lbs
Emergency Brake System = 12.125lbs
Door Fiberglass = 1.90625 lbs
Door Crash Bars and Brackets = 17.5625 lbs
Window Regulator Metal = 1.8846535171744791666666666666667 lbs
Driver's Air Bag = 3.625 lbs
Passenger's Air Bag = 9.46875
Heater Core (empty) = 1.03125
AC Tube = .09375
Black Mat = 10.03125 lbs
Airbag Crash Sensors = 1.53125 lbs
Mat that is Underneath the Dash Pad = 2.34375 lbs
Heater Core Hoses = 2.0125 lbs
Front Sway Bar = 15.09375 lbs
Plastic Shrouding = 4.968749 lbs
Power - Manual seat slider = 14.4375 - 10.8125 = 3.625 lbs
EGR and EVAP parts = 1.625 lbs
Interior Harness Extranious Wiring = 14.50 lbs
Grand total to this point = 322.009699 lbs + all the stuff I still have to either cut out or weigh.
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Weight that I will be removing calculation wise:
3391 lbs stock 1993 Camaro Z28 Automatic
- 37 lbs Spare Tire and Jack
- 3 lbs Head Unit
- 5 lbs Hatch Speakers
- 2 lbs Sun Visors
+ 155 lbs of Driver
- 322.009699 lbs removed so far
= 3176.990301
+ 100 lbs Cage
+ 20 lbs Leather Seats
+ 10 lbs Carpet
+ 8 lbs Battery Relocation
138 lbs
= 3314.990301 lbs
- 12 lbs ABS Module (LT1 Version)
- 21 lbs Rear Bumper Support
- 1 lbs Charcoal Canister
- 5 lbs Coolant Overflow
- 1 lbs Grill Insert
- 4 lbs Swiss Cheese Hatch
- 8 lbs Engine Bay Wiring
= -52 lbs
= 3262.990301 lbs
- 50 lbs Chopping Front End / Thin Moly replacement
- 8 lbs Roof + A Pillar Metal
- 11 lbs T Top Hump
- 25 lbs BMR Turbo K Member
94 lbs
= 3168.990301 lbs
- 30 lbs VFN 2 Inch Cowl Pin On Hood
- 4 lbs Hood Latch
- 70 lbs Speedglass front and rear
104 lbs
= 3064.990301 lbs
- 65 lbs Racecraft 2 inch drop spindles, Strange Front, and Rear Brakes
- 52 lbs Kirkey Seats
117 lbs
= 2947.990301 lbs
- 60 lbs TH350 and 8 inch converter
- 60 lbs switching to LS1 engine
- 15 lbs MWCP Fab 9 inch narrowed / gundrilled / star flanged
- 88 lbs Redoing rear metal / mini tubbing
- 35 lbs 15x12s and skinnies with tires (rough estimate)
258 lbs
= 2689.990301
+ 15 lbs ARB
+ 7 lbs Harnesses
- 3 lbs tubular A arms
+ 19 lbs
= 2708.990301
Keep in mind this is a 93 that started life with an LT1 / 4L60 so some of the weights will be different than what some of you are used to seeing. I haven't messed with this list in a while. I just went through it and quickly updated it with what I've removed recently and recalculated the weights.
I have some other ideas on how to take weight out of the car, but some of them are kind of involved and worth only a few ounces in each area. I have an easy one that I haven't done yet that is worth around another 5 lbs. Along with a couple others that are worth a few pounds. The end goal is 2699 with the amenities listed above, 10 point cage, TH350, LS1, and being able to enjoy driving it.
If I decided to do what you said with removing the AC, PS, power window motors, power door locks, windshield wipers, interior panels, one seat, no carpet, installing a spool, slicks instead of radials, fuel cell, etc... I'm sure it would probably be in the 2500 - 2575 range or less. I'd rather not do that though as I'm sure it will be light enough and I'll still enjoy driving it around.
Front Bumper Support = 25.375 lbs
Fog lights and brackets = 4.0625 lbs
Cruise control, cable, and throttle cable cover = 4.4375 lbs
Air pump and brass fittings = 5.9375 lbs
Stock horns = 1.875 lbs
Stupid siren and loud horn = 2.5 lbs
Stock Y pipe and single cat = 21.1875 lbs
Frame horns = 5.125 lbs
Fender metal = 1.25 lbs
Rear Seatbelts = 4.1375 lbs
Aftermarket Speaker Wiring (will be added to considering there is a ton more of it) = .25 lbs
Carpet = 29.0375 lbs
Windshield washer fluid reservoir with water = 8.0625 lbs
Heat shields beneath the car = 2.1875
Soon to be useless exhaust hangers = 2.00 lbs
Rear Seats = 22.4375 lbs
Random exhaust hangers, brackets, nuts, and bolts = 9.25 lbs
Front Speakers = 2.75 lbs
Rear Speakers = 3.25 lbs
Front Speaker Brackets = 1.25 lbs
Interior brackets including (rear seat brackets, antenna bracket, rear seat belt brackets) = 3.875 lbs
Security System Hood Lock = 2.6875 lbs
Antenna + Wire (not including the actual metal rod) = .25lbs
Stock catback = 50.1875lbs
Rear Armrests = 4.21875lbs
Extra Metal Trimmings = 1.00lbs
Emergency Brake System = 12.125lbs
Door Fiberglass = 1.90625 lbs
Door Crash Bars and Brackets = 17.5625 lbs
Window Regulator Metal = 1.8846535171744791666666666666667 lbs
Driver's Air Bag = 3.625 lbs
Passenger's Air Bag = 9.46875
Heater Core (empty) = 1.03125
AC Tube = .09375
Black Mat = 10.03125 lbs
Airbag Crash Sensors = 1.53125 lbs
Mat that is Underneath the Dash Pad = 2.34375 lbs
Heater Core Hoses = 2.0125 lbs
Front Sway Bar = 15.09375 lbs
Plastic Shrouding = 4.968749 lbs
Power - Manual seat slider = 14.4375 - 10.8125 = 3.625 lbs
EGR and EVAP parts = 1.625 lbs
Interior Harness Extranious Wiring = 14.50 lbs
Grand total to this point = 322.009699 lbs + all the stuff I still have to either cut out or weigh.
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Weight that I will be removing calculation wise:
3391 lbs stock 1993 Camaro Z28 Automatic
- 37 lbs Spare Tire and Jack
- 3 lbs Head Unit
- 5 lbs Hatch Speakers
- 2 lbs Sun Visors
+ 155 lbs of Driver
- 322.009699 lbs removed so far
= 3176.990301
+ 100 lbs Cage
+ 20 lbs Leather Seats
+ 10 lbs Carpet
+ 8 lbs Battery Relocation
138 lbs
= 3314.990301 lbs
- 12 lbs ABS Module (LT1 Version)
- 21 lbs Rear Bumper Support
- 1 lbs Charcoal Canister
- 5 lbs Coolant Overflow
- 1 lbs Grill Insert
- 4 lbs Swiss Cheese Hatch
- 8 lbs Engine Bay Wiring
= -52 lbs
= 3262.990301 lbs
- 50 lbs Chopping Front End / Thin Moly replacement
- 8 lbs Roof + A Pillar Metal
- 11 lbs T Top Hump
- 25 lbs BMR Turbo K Member
94 lbs
= 3168.990301 lbs
- 30 lbs VFN 2 Inch Cowl Pin On Hood
- 4 lbs Hood Latch
- 70 lbs Speedglass front and rear
104 lbs
= 3064.990301 lbs
- 65 lbs Racecraft 2 inch drop spindles, Strange Front, and Rear Brakes
- 52 lbs Kirkey Seats
117 lbs
= 2947.990301 lbs
- 60 lbs TH350 and 8 inch converter
- 60 lbs switching to LS1 engine
- 15 lbs MWCP Fab 9 inch narrowed / gundrilled / star flanged
- 88 lbs Redoing rear metal / mini tubbing
- 35 lbs 15x12s and skinnies with tires (rough estimate)
258 lbs
= 2689.990301
+ 15 lbs ARB
+ 7 lbs Harnesses
- 3 lbs tubular A arms
+ 19 lbs
= 2708.990301
Keep in mind this is a 93 that started life with an LT1 / 4L60 so some of the weights will be different than what some of you are used to seeing. I haven't messed with this list in a while. I just went through it and quickly updated it with what I've removed recently and recalculated the weights.
I have some other ideas on how to take weight out of the car, but some of them are kind of involved and worth only a few ounces in each area. I have an easy one that I haven't done yet that is worth around another 5 lbs. Along with a couple others that are worth a few pounds. The end goal is 2699 with the amenities listed above, 10 point cage, TH350, LS1, and being able to enjoy driving it.
If I decided to do what you said with removing the AC, PS, power window motors, power door locks, windshield wipers, interior panels, one seat, no carpet, installing a spool, slicks instead of radials, fuel cell, etc... I'm sure it would probably be in the 2500 - 2575 range or less. I'd rather not do that though as I'm sure it will be light enough and I'll still enjoy driving it around.
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When you get the car on the scales you might be suprised what it will weigh.... Ive seen guys get under 2800 but that is with doing EVERYTHING and runing race brakes. If you make it tough then congrats.
There is a local with a third gen full interior, cage, Dana 60 big slicks, all aluminum BBC and it is 2900 with him out of it and third gens stock weigh less then 4th gens.
There is a second gen that is like 2500 pounds and it is a tube chassis car.
A lot of the stuff that you can pull really is not much and does not add up to much, an over flow container weighs next to nothing and you have to replace it with something, ect ect.
P.S. unless you are going full care you are insane for cutting on the roof an a-pillars...... even with a care I would want to leave it alone.....
There is a local with a third gen full interior, cage, Dana 60 big slicks, all aluminum BBC and it is 2900 with him out of it and third gens stock weigh less then 4th gens.
There is a second gen that is like 2500 pounds and it is a tube chassis car.
A lot of the stuff that you can pull really is not much and does not add up to much, an over flow container weighs next to nothing and you have to replace it with something, ect ect.
P.S. unless you are going full care you are insane for cutting on the roof an a-pillars...... even with a care I would want to leave it alone.....
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Thanks for the input guys. Oh and yes im gonna get a tubalar k-member that I forgot about posting. Im not going to mess with the doors at all until I do a roll cage eventually. Also im going to either go with a smaller battery up front(either a motorcycle battery or a racing battery, whatever they are called), take out my washer res., and not really sure what else. My goal is to be as close to 3000 lbs. with me in it. Still gonna take out the front/rear bumper supports. I have a buddy of mine that has a camaro V6 that took out his bumper supports and hasnt had any problems at all.
If you guys can help me find out where to get the lightweight carpet that would be fine otherwise im going with no carpet at all.
If you guys can help me find out where to get the lightweight carpet that would be fine otherwise im going with no carpet at all.
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When you get the car on the scales you might be suprised what it will weigh.... Ive seen guys get under 2800 but that is with doing EVERYTHING and runing race brakes. If you make it tough then congrats.
There is a local with a third gen full interior, cage, Dana 60 big slicks, all aluminum BBC and it is 2900 with him out of it and third gens stock weigh less then 4th gens.
There is a second gen that is like 2500 pounds and it is a tube chassis car.
A lot of the stuff that you can pull really is not much and does not add up to much, an over flow container weighs next to nothing and you have to replace it with something, ect ect.
P.S. unless you are going full care you are insane for cutting on the roof an a-pillars...... even with a care I would want to leave it alone.....
There is a local with a third gen full interior, cage, Dana 60 big slicks, all aluminum BBC and it is 2900 with him out of it and third gens stock weigh less then 4th gens.
There is a second gen that is like 2500 pounds and it is a tube chassis car.
A lot of the stuff that you can pull really is not much and does not add up to much, an over flow container weighs next to nothing and you have to replace it with something, ect ect.
P.S. unless you are going full care you are insane for cutting on the roof an a-pillars...... even with a care I would want to leave it alone.....
My car weighs 2895, stock front brakes,have air bags, heat, 1 door bar and no cutting except the rear bump stop area to clear my coil overs.... There is ALOT to be had if you plan it wisely... I made alot of lightweight 4130 suspension and chassis parts. Speed glass is next, as well as removing the rest of what I posted.... Im planning sub 2800 when Im done... 2750 ish...
edit: And my car is LEGAL for the time it runs, unlike a lot I have seen here, has a 6pt heavy (88 lb) wolfe bar, going to a custom by me, 4130 10 pt cage...
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Read the 93 thread in my sig. I have it all down step by step of what I've removed by the car with, "crack scale" accuracy on the weights.
List roughly =
Front Bumper Support = 25.375 lbs
Fog lights and brackets = 4.0625 lbs
Cruise control, cable, and throttle cable cover = 4.4375 lbs
Air pump and brass fittings = 5.9375 lbs
Stock horns = 1.875 lbs
Stupid siren and loud horn = 2.5 lbs
Stock Y pipe and single cat = 21.1875 lbs
Frame horns = 5.125 lbs
Fender metal = 1.25 lbs
Rear Seatbelts = 4.1375 lbs
Aftermarket Speaker Wiring (will be added to considering there is a ton more of it) = .25 lbs
Carpet = 29.0375 lbs
Windshield washer fluid reservoir with water = 8.0625 lbs
Heat shields beneath the car = 2.1875
Soon to be useless exhaust hangers = 2.00 lbs
Rear Seats = 22.4375 lbs
Random exhaust hangers, brackets, nuts, and bolts = 9.25 lbs
Front Speakers = 2.75 lbs
Rear Speakers = 3.25 lbs
Front Speaker Brackets = 1.25 lbs
Interior brackets including (rear seat brackets, antenna bracket, rear seat belt brackets) = 3.875 lbs
Security System Hood Lock = 2.6875 lbs
Antenna + Wire (not including the actual metal rod) = .25lbs
Stock catback = 50.1875lbs
Rear Armrests = 4.21875lbs
Extra Metal Trimmings = 1.00lbs
Emergency Brake System = 12.125lbs
Door Fiberglass = 1.90625 lbs
Door Crash Bars and Brackets = 17.5625 lbs
Window Regulator Metal = 1.8846535171744791666666666666667 lbs
Driver's Air Bag = 3.625 lbs
Passenger's Air Bag = 9.46875
Heater Core (empty) = 1.03125
AC Tube = .09375
Black Mat = 10.03125 lbs
Airbag Crash Sensors = 1.53125 lbs
Mat that is Underneath the Dash Pad = 2.34375 lbs
Heater Core Hoses = 2.0125 lbs
Front Sway Bar = 15.09375 lbs
Plastic Shrouding = 4.968749 lbs
Power - Manual seat slider = 14.4375 - 10.8125 = 3.625 lbs
EGR and EVAP parts = 1.625 lbs
Interior Harness Extranious Wiring = 14.50 lbs
Grand total to this point = 322.009699 lbs + all the stuff I still have to either cut out or weigh.
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Weight that I will be removing calculation wise:
3391 lbs stock 1993 Camaro Z28 Automatic
- 37 lbs Spare Tire and Jack
- 3 lbs Head Unit
- 5 lbs Hatch Speakers
- 2 lbs Sun Visors
+ 155 lbs of Driver
- 322.009699 lbs removed so far
= 3176.990301
+ 100 lbs Cage
+ 20 lbs Leather Seats
+ 10 lbs Carpet
+ 8 lbs Battery Relocation
138 lbs
= 3314.990301 lbs
- 12 lbs ABS Module (LT1 Version)
- 21 lbs Rear Bumper Support
- 1 lbs Charcoal Canister
- 5 lbs Coolant Overflow
- 1 lbs Grill Insert
- 4 lbs Swiss Cheese Hatch
- 8 lbs Engine Bay Wiring
= -52 lbs
= 3262.990301 lbs
- 50 lbs Chopping Front End / Thin Moly replacement
- 8 lbs Roof + A Pillar Metal
- 11 lbs T Top Hump
- 25 lbs BMR Turbo K Member
94 lbs
= 3168.990301 lbs
- 30 lbs VFN 2 Inch Cowl Pin On Hood
- 4 lbs Hood Latch
- 70 lbs Speedglass front and rear
104 lbs
= 3064.990301 lbs
- 65 lbs Racecraft 2 inch drop spindles, Strange Front, and Rear Brakes
- 52 lbs Kirkey Seats
117 lbs
= 2947.990301 lbs
- 60 lbs TH350 and 8 inch converter
- 60 lbs switching to LS1 engine
- 15 lbs MWCP Fab 9 inch narrowed / gundrilled / star flanged
- 88 lbs Redoing rear metal / mini tubbing
- 35 lbs 15x12s and skinnies with tires (rough estimate)
258 lbs
= 2689.990301
+ 15 lbs ARB
+ 7 lbs Harnesses
- 3 lbs tubular A arms
+ 19 lbs
= 2708.990301
Keep in mind this is a 93 that started life with an LT1 / 4L60 so some of the weights will be different than what some of you are used to seeing. I haven't messed with this list in a while. I just went through it and quickly updated it with what I've removed recently and recalculated the weights.
I have some other ideas on how to take weight out of the car, but some of them are kind of involved and worth only a few ounces in each area. I have an easy one that I haven't done yet that is worth around another 5 lbs. Along with a couple others that are worth a few pounds. The end goal is 2699 with the amenities listed above, 10 point cage, TH350, LS1, and being able to enjoy driving it.
If I decided to do what you said with removing the AC, PS, power window motors, power door locks, windshield wipers, interior panels, one seat, no carpet, installing a spool, slicks instead of radials, fuel cell, etc... I'm sure it would probably be in the 2500 - 2575 range or less. I'd rather not do that though as I'm sure it will be light enough and I'll still enjoy driving it around.
List roughly =
Front Bumper Support = 25.375 lbs
Fog lights and brackets = 4.0625 lbs
Cruise control, cable, and throttle cable cover = 4.4375 lbs
Air pump and brass fittings = 5.9375 lbs
Stock horns = 1.875 lbs
Stupid siren and loud horn = 2.5 lbs
Stock Y pipe and single cat = 21.1875 lbs
Frame horns = 5.125 lbs
Fender metal = 1.25 lbs
Rear Seatbelts = 4.1375 lbs
Aftermarket Speaker Wiring (will be added to considering there is a ton more of it) = .25 lbs
Carpet = 29.0375 lbs
Windshield washer fluid reservoir with water = 8.0625 lbs
Heat shields beneath the car = 2.1875
Soon to be useless exhaust hangers = 2.00 lbs
Rear Seats = 22.4375 lbs
Random exhaust hangers, brackets, nuts, and bolts = 9.25 lbs
Front Speakers = 2.75 lbs
Rear Speakers = 3.25 lbs
Front Speaker Brackets = 1.25 lbs
Interior brackets including (rear seat brackets, antenna bracket, rear seat belt brackets) = 3.875 lbs
Security System Hood Lock = 2.6875 lbs
Antenna + Wire (not including the actual metal rod) = .25lbs
Stock catback = 50.1875lbs
Rear Armrests = 4.21875lbs
Extra Metal Trimmings = 1.00lbs
Emergency Brake System = 12.125lbs
Door Fiberglass = 1.90625 lbs
Door Crash Bars and Brackets = 17.5625 lbs
Window Regulator Metal = 1.8846535171744791666666666666667 lbs
Driver's Air Bag = 3.625 lbs
Passenger's Air Bag = 9.46875
Heater Core (empty) = 1.03125
AC Tube = .09375
Black Mat = 10.03125 lbs
Airbag Crash Sensors = 1.53125 lbs
Mat that is Underneath the Dash Pad = 2.34375 lbs
Heater Core Hoses = 2.0125 lbs
Front Sway Bar = 15.09375 lbs
Plastic Shrouding = 4.968749 lbs
Power - Manual seat slider = 14.4375 - 10.8125 = 3.625 lbs
EGR and EVAP parts = 1.625 lbs
Interior Harness Extranious Wiring = 14.50 lbs
Grand total to this point = 322.009699 lbs + all the stuff I still have to either cut out or weigh.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weight that I will be removing calculation wise:
3391 lbs stock 1993 Camaro Z28 Automatic
- 37 lbs Spare Tire and Jack
- 3 lbs Head Unit
- 5 lbs Hatch Speakers
- 2 lbs Sun Visors
+ 155 lbs of Driver
- 322.009699 lbs removed so far
= 3176.990301
+ 100 lbs Cage
+ 20 lbs Leather Seats
+ 10 lbs Carpet
+ 8 lbs Battery Relocation
138 lbs
= 3314.990301 lbs
- 12 lbs ABS Module (LT1 Version)
- 21 lbs Rear Bumper Support
- 1 lbs Charcoal Canister
- 5 lbs Coolant Overflow
- 1 lbs Grill Insert
- 4 lbs Swiss Cheese Hatch
- 8 lbs Engine Bay Wiring
= -52 lbs
= 3262.990301 lbs
- 50 lbs Chopping Front End / Thin Moly replacement
- 8 lbs Roof + A Pillar Metal
- 11 lbs T Top Hump
- 25 lbs BMR Turbo K Member
94 lbs
= 3168.990301 lbs
- 30 lbs VFN 2 Inch Cowl Pin On Hood
- 4 lbs Hood Latch
- 70 lbs Speedglass front and rear
104 lbs
= 3064.990301 lbs
- 65 lbs Racecraft 2 inch drop spindles, Strange Front, and Rear Brakes
- 52 lbs Kirkey Seats
117 lbs
= 2947.990301 lbs
- 60 lbs TH350 and 8 inch converter
- 60 lbs switching to LS1 engine
- 15 lbs MWCP Fab 9 inch narrowed / gundrilled / star flanged
- 88 lbs Redoing rear metal / mini tubbing
- 35 lbs 15x12s and skinnies with tires (rough estimate)
258 lbs
= 2689.990301
+ 15 lbs ARB
+ 7 lbs Harnesses
- 3 lbs tubular A arms
+ 19 lbs
= 2708.990301
Keep in mind this is a 93 that started life with an LT1 / 4L60 so some of the weights will be different than what some of you are used to seeing. I haven't messed with this list in a while. I just went through it and quickly updated it with what I've removed recently and recalculated the weights.
I have some other ideas on how to take weight out of the car, but some of them are kind of involved and worth only a few ounces in each area. I have an easy one that I haven't done yet that is worth around another 5 lbs. Along with a couple others that are worth a few pounds. The end goal is 2699 with the amenities listed above, 10 point cage, TH350, LS1, and being able to enjoy driving it.
If I decided to do what you said with removing the AC, PS, power window motors, power door locks, windshield wipers, interior panels, one seat, no carpet, installing a spool, slicks instead of radials, fuel cell, etc... I'm sure it would probably be in the 2500 - 2575 range or less. I'd rather not do that though as I'm sure it will be light enough and I'll still enjoy driving it around.
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I'm pretty sure his original lt1 weights more than 3391...put it on a scale. My ls1 m6 hdtop car weighed 3430. M6 is less than a a4 and a ls1 less than a lt1. I'm at 3100 now with ALL creature comforts and sound deadening.