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Old 03-09-2010, 01:59 AM
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what setups do yall guys have? and how did yall tie them together?

does the cage go though the floor all the wat to the sfc or did you weld cage to a plate then weld sfc to another plate underd the car?


im wondering what to order, since im goana tie it all together i was thinking spohn CM SFC with a wolfe CM 6 point not jig notched so we could still tie them together
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bump for you
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why not get wolfe sfcs?
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thought about it but seem to be more labor to install and overkill if im planning on tieing it all together anyways...plus it would all be chromoly to tig together
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I think 98% of the caged cars on here have 6x6 plates at all rollbar/rollcage mounting points, as well as mine.



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is it tied to subframes?
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Originally Posted by daniel6718
is it tied to subframes?
It's not directly welded to the subframes.

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we plan to tie our 10 point into the subframes by going through the floor and straight to the umi round subframes. That is the plan at the moment.
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this is a matter of rule interpretation...

by the rulebook, unibody cars must be welded to 6x6 plates on the floor...so even if you go thru the floor to a subframe, you may still need a plate there too.

on full framed cars they go to the frame...but a unibody for SFCs is still not full-framed...
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Originally Posted by Fireball
this is a matter of rule interpretation...

by the rulebook, unibody cars must be welded to 6x6 plates on the floor...so even if you go thru the floor to a subframe, you may still need a plate there too.

on full framed cars they go to the frame...but a unibody for SFCs is still not full-framed...
are your sfc's tied in?
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you could just run some round bar with a plate to the floor pan under the cage mounting area. the best advice i heard is to have your mounting plate extend through two axises if i'm terming that correctly. like in the pic above how its on the flat top part of what i believe is the torsion box (i'm really not good with terminology ) and then extends down the backside of it.
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
are your sfc's tied in?
I have a 25.x spec cage...we are required to tie in...but not in the way traditionally done.
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Originally Posted by Fireball
I have a 25.x spec cage...we are required to tie in...but not in the way traditionally done.
I've read the 25.5 SFI Spec. I didn't see anything mentioned about subframes. you must be doing a 25.2 or 25.3.
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look at bars 2A and 2B on the 25.5

By design they are supposed to ultimately tie into the subframes

even then, the rocker bars run in between the OEM subframes which tie everything together.
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Originally Posted by Fireball
look at bars 2A and 2B on the 25.5

By design they are supposed to ultimately tie into the subframes

even then, the rocker bars run in between the OEM subframes which tie everything together.

You're rocker bars are above the floorboard, right?

Are 2A and 2B needed if using the OEM firewall and trans tunnel?
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yes...above the floorboard

they are always required in 25.x spec cages.
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Originally Posted by Fireball
yes...above the floorboard

they are always required in 25.x spec cages.
got you. see it now in the book.
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We always just go to the 6x6 plates welded to the floor. Anything more than that is overkill.
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nice cool
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so cage w/plates no subframes?



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