JL ws-6

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There you go... "can't be the header"

Typical

I'd love to see the car everyone mocks their stuff up on, damn thing has got to be the one car that has 2 inches more clearance then EVERY other produced car from the factory.

Amazing.

Taubr Unit

iTrader: (32)

I'm not sayin it can't be the header, but aparently some fit n most don't. Just sounds like a crap shoot with um. I guess I won't know for sure till I put mine on n report back if they fit or what I did to make um fit.

JL ws-6

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I made the steering shaft clear my 1 7/8 stepped to 2 inch.

Next set that goes on will be built to the car, and mind steel that will be coated. I'm all done paying 800 bucks for a set of stainless ones that don't fit right, I'd much rather spend that same $ on a set fo coated mild steel ones that will last just as long on a race car (considering one whelestand could ruin them, plus with no water exposure it's not like rust is a big deal) and will fit right. That and I'm planning on a slip on collector, and the headers will most likly go in the car in 2 pcs per side.

getusum

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I'll throw my .02 in...My Kooks 1 7/8 headers you couldn't fit a sheet of paper through on the drivers side....It showed some small wear marks, but nothing on the rubbing side...My buddy had the sqame headers(we bought from ther same sponcer) and his rubbed bad...We had to notch and **** to get them to work...

Now, I've got a new set of ARH 2'' headers, and man!!!! The drivers primary is tucked in tight...Should have at least have 1'' 1/2'' if not more for clearance...I'll post pics in a few weeks after I finish mock up...

JL ws-6

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Same deal I had with the 1 7/8 stepped to 2 inch. It burnt the paint off the stock steering shaft with the stock rack and k member in the car, had these been a 2 inch they wouldn't have fit in the car, the pipe was in the 1 7/8 section where the clearance problem was.

ARH, is actually run by a guy that used to work at Kooks, I suspect that he probably took what Kooks was doing, and improved the design/process.

Firehawk441

iTrader: (41)

The headers are NOT the issue...

Steering shaft angle is much different on a stock rack from a manual rack.

JL ws-6

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Then why do they hit with a stock rack/k member and whatnot in a car?

minytrker

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I have a manual rack in two cars and they didnt fit in either one.

JL ws-6

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They won't fit in a car with a stock rack and k member either The 1 7/8 stepped to 2 inch BARELY fit, to the point that the headers burnt the paint off the steering shaft. had that noe already gone I'd take a pic and show where it was so close it burnt the steering shaft's paint clean off. 2 inch never would have cleared.

I know of 3 cars that have tried the 2 inch ones and they didn't fit. Hell Ken had to have the #1 cut out and have a U put in to make it work with an aftermarket rack, every car I know of that I have seen personally had an issue.

Firehawk441

iTrader: (41)

AFTERMARKET PARTS....
They do fit. Tomorow, probably not. Inconsistancy in manufacturing.
Nothing fits like OEM parts.
You know I deal with this crap for a living. It hasn't changed in the 30 yrs.

JL ws-6

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I believe they did fit in one car when the jig was made... problem is that every set after the first production run doesn't.


You think the aftermarket is bad, try getting parts for a piece of german medical equipment from china. You don't have to tell me about parts not fitting LOL. It's amazing, first article shows up and all is well, first production lot = FAIL

Firehawk441

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I'm sure they didn't. That's what I was talking about.

SSPerformance

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My kooks are fine with alot of room to spare 1 7/8 .... Firehawk441 is correct on the steering coulm angle with a manual rack vs stock.....

Firehawk441

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It's about money today and nothing about pride.

JL ws-6

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A sad affair I agree.

Taubr Unit

iTrader: (32)

so are you saying theres a better chance of them fitting right with a factory rack as that is what these headers were made around vs. aftermarket stuff which are at different angles? I should be putting mine in the next few days so ill know exactely whats up with mine.

SSPerformance

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corect

Taubr Unit

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well the verdict is in, my headers went in with 0 issues. Drivers side went right in and was bolted up in a matter of 5 minutes...done. I didnt have to ding, dent, remake, modify anything. So that settles that on my car with a PA k-member, stock rack and shaft. HOWEVER to be fair the thick collar/shoulder part of the shaft is pretty close, i got about 1/4 gap between the two. But for huge headers they fit pretty good. Let the debate continue!!

dnkynrbk

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I have a factory rack and K member I have the stepped race header with 3 1/2 flange. I had to Knotch the K member on both sides then go in weld it up. Here is some pics. I pm kooks on here got nothing oh well they are a kick A$$ header to me. Just dont try to install them when when the motor is allready in. Here is some pics of my kmember notched so it wouldnt hit the header.

BES Stroked Nova

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damn, I hope my 2" kooks fit.

I will be running a manual rack with a MWC K member. Cant the rack be moved out farther and another steering shaft be made, and that would give it less angle and get it away from the headers?