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Stippy17 (00' Trans Am)
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:42 PM
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Default Cheeseburger Grudge Match Race


What is all of this about you ask? Well a good buddy of mine Kurt (Z28Drifter348) and I (Stippy17) want to have a little grudge match race at the local drag strip soon. The friendly wager is the loser has to buy the winner a 1/2lb Cheeseburger from the food stand. He is finishing up with the mods to his car as we speak and he should be ready to race within a few weeks.










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00' Trans Am
56k Miles
Driver - 5'6" & 155lbs


Engine & Drivetrain

Tuned by Ed Hutchins From Virginia Speed
227cc Stage II CNC Ported 59cc Patriot Heads
202 Dual Valve Springs
Comp Cams 7.4 Pushrods
LS7 Lifters
.581/.592 Comp Cams XER 224/230 Cam
LS6 Oil Pump
Double Roller Timing Chain
LS6 Intake Manifold
Ported & Polished Throttle Body
SVO 30lb Injectors
SLP Lid w/ K&N Air Filter
NGK TR-55 Plugs
MSD 8.5mm Ignition Wires
1 3/4" Pacesetter Headers
3" Texas Speed Y Pipe
3" Corsa Catback w/ No Muffler
Yank SS3600 Stall Converter
Built 4L65E Transmission
3.42 Gears w/ Zexel Torsion Carrier


Suspension & Wheels

Kenny Brown Double Diamond Subrame Connectors - Welded In
SLP Strut Tower Brace
UMI Tunned Mounted Adjustable Torque Arm (Set at -2.5)
UMI Solid Lower Control Arms
UMI LCA Relocation Brackets
UMI Solid Panhard Bar
Stock 56k Struts/Springs/Shocks
Summit Fast Five Drag Wheels (All 4)
275/50/15 Mickey Thompson ET Street Drag Radials (Rear)
165/80/15's (Front)


- Last year my car ran a best of 11.76 @ 114.8 in good DA. I didnt have the UMI Relocation Brackets yet, and was still running on a stock torque arm. This year I added those along with a line loc. Ive only made it to the track once this year, but the car has ran a best of 11.89 @ 113.9 in horrible DA. My 60ft has improved so I expect a high 11.6x-low 11.7x in good DA this year.






Z28Drifter348
98' Z28
94k Miles
Driver - 6'0" & 200lbs



Engine & Drivetrain

(Needs tuned before we race)
Trick Flow 220CC CNC Ported 64cc Heads
Dual 160lb Valve Springs
TFS 7.500 Chromoloy Pushrods
Stock Lifters
.595/.598 Comp Cams .232/.234 Cam
GM Performance Oil Pump
New Stock Replacement Timing Chain
LS1 Intake (Plans to swap a LS6 on before race)
Stock Throttle Body (Plans to Port/Polish or swap a 90mm on before race)
F.A.S.T 39lb Injectors
SLP Lid w/ K&N Air Filter
E3 Plugs
MSD 8.5mm Ignition Wires
BBK 1 7/8" Headers
BBK 3" Y Pipe
Stock Catback w/ No Muffler
Rev Max Stage 3 4000 Stall Converter
Stock Transmission
Empire Drive Line Driveshaft
3.42 Gears w/ Zexel Torsion Carrier

Suspension & Wheels

UMI Subrame Connectors - Welded In
UMI Tunned Mounted Adjustable Torque Arm (Set at -4)
UMI Solid Lower Control Arms
UMI Solid Panhard Bar
Stock 94k Front Struts/Springs
GM Performance Rear Springs/KYB AGX Adjustable Shocks
Stock Z28 Wheels (All 4)
26/10.5/16 Mickey Thompson Bias Ply's (Rear)
245/50/16's (Front)

- Last year Kurt's car was almost completely stock down to the 2.73 gears. I believe his best run was around 13.5 @ 106. Over the course of the last few months he has made the car what it is now, and within a few more weeks his build should be complete enough to have this grudge match.










So the question is: Who will win, and by how much? I have my guess.

Before the race he wants to upgrade to an LS6 Intake, and a stock ported throttle body or 90mm tb, and he still needs tuned. Before the race I want to add an underdrive pulley. I left my dyno #'s out, because he hasnt dynoed his car yet, and frankly drag racing isnt all about dyno #'s.

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Old 09-05-2011, 10:01 PM
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The first one to the finish line is gona win
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I say its going to be a draw.
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Originally Posted by Mtparker18
I say its going to be a draw.
then that means its going to come down to light time. i know hes fucked then.lol
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Originally Posted by Z28Drifter348
then that means its going to come down to light time. i know hes fucked then.lol
It all really depends on what your car puts down. If you put down close to Bob, when you'll be close. It'll be down to light time at that point.
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Originally Posted by studderin
The first one to the finish line is gona win
If you ain't first, you're last
Old 09-06-2011, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mtparker18
It all really depends on what your car puts down. If you put down close to Bob, then you'll be close. It'll be down to light time at that point.
Its not always about whp #'s Mitch. Its how the whole car/combo is set up. A lot of people get hung up on if a car has XXX amount of whp it should run XX.XX @ XXX. If the car isnt set up properly it can lose to a car that has 10-50 less whp.


Im sure if I added whp #'s to this thread we would get more responses, but I want people to base their opinion on the mods and complete setups. Neither of these cars are or ever will be dyno queens.
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Originally Posted by Stippy17
Its not always about whp #'s Mitch. Its how the whole car/combo is set up. A lot of people get hung up on if a car has XXX amount of whp it should run XX.XX @ XXX. If the car isnt set up properly it can lose to a car that has 10-50 less whp.


Im sure if I added whp #'s to this thread we would get more responses, but I want people to base their opinion on the mods and complete setups. Neither of these cars are or ever will be dyno queens.
Haha. I know man. I'm just saying. Whp doesn't mean ****. I havent seen his car run yet, so I can't say. But if Id have to take a guess, you'd win. I'll say if you run like 11.9 hell be about 12.1. Just my .02
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Raceweights of the cars? If he's stock weight, gut your car the night before the race, don't say anything, and keep the windows up
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We are both full interior street cars. I take my rear seats out on race day so my bigs and littles fit easier.

On a side note Kurt is supposed to be dynoing/tuning his car very soon. I'm curious to how the outcome is going to come out. I have ordered my UD Pulley..just waiting for it to come in now.
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TAFTMFW!!!...but Im a bit partial
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You have E3 plugs, you will win with ease from their 50hp
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Originally Posted by Photochop
Raceweights of the cars? If he's stock weight, gut your car the night before the race, don't say anything, and keep the windows up
^^ well now i know.? and hes light enough the kid weighs 150 pounds
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Originally Posted by Z28Drifter348
hes light enough the kid weighs 150 pounds
Hahaha what do you expect from a short **** like me? Im built lightweight for drag racing!
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Originally Posted by 3.8redbird
You have E3 plugs, you will win with ease from their 50hp


Shittttt. Is that crank hp or whp?


Maybe Ill add some stickers before the race to add 50hp to my car..
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Originally Posted by 3.8redbird
You have E3 plugs, you will win with ease from their 50hp
i aint gonna lie im kinda disappointed in them plugs. only good thing is the gap cant blow out on them lol
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Originally Posted by Stippy17
Hahaha what do you expect from a short **** like me? Im built lightweight for drag racing!
Must be why my car is still in the 16's





Originally Posted by Stippy17
Shittttt. Is that crank hp or whp?


Maybe Ill add some stickers before the race to add 50hp to my car..
^^ reminds me of this


http://www.streetfire.net/video/civi...ang_209021.htm
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Only reason I mentioned the raceweight thing is because if you guys get out evenly its gonna be a crapshoot, seems to be pretty even. If there was a slight edge I'd give that to you only because Yank converters generally hit hard, but he's got a higher stall speed to his shift extensions should be shorter --but an off brand converter I know nothing about.
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Id say our weight is about the same. I might have a SLIGHT edge, but nothing big.

On a side note I'm still waiting on my ud pulley. The crank bolt is on back order unfortunately. :-( Should be shipping out to me by the end of the week tho.
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Since you are both running UMI items...

Winner gets a free UMI T-shirt, UMI windshield banner (if they want it) and a $25.00 Visa gift card I will send you.

Good luck guys! Let me know who wins



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