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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 03:25 AM
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hey guys, im currently running stock front shocks and springs, stock rear springs, and comp engineering 3 way rear shocks. Ive got a midwest 9 with 4.10s, spool, and short tq arm, bmr non adj. lower tq arms and have my pinion at -2.5 degrees. im making 440rwhp and 400rwtq and on bigs and littles hoosier QTP's on 10-11 psi cold and it seems to hook pretty good on that. both sway bars are removed at the time and the car rolls to the pass. side pretty bad and pulls the left front every time. my 60fts are 1.65-1.67 and im not happy with that. im looking at the eibach drag spring kit (front and rear and drag bag for right rear) and wondering if the will help with that problem and what if anything i can expect from that set up. funds at the time are too low to afford anti roll bar or front shocks. car is currently running 11.71-11.73 consistently. car is a 02 ss camaro m6, weighs in at 3530 with me in it and is my every day driver. any insight as to how much those springs will help, where to go from here, anything to make her go faster would be greatly appreciated. would absolutely love to see 10s at the power im at now and just upgrading suspension.
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 06:31 AM
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funds at the time are too low to afford anti roll bar or front shocks.
There's your problem. A solid drag bar like the Wolfe and a set of QA1s would help tremendously. My 60's DRASTICALLY improved (high 1.5s to low 1.4s) going from a stock swaybar, front springs and shocks to QA1s, drag springs, and an anti-roll bar.

Those Eibach springs won't help you at this point, IMO.
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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I would think even a stock rear sway bar would be better than nothing and help the launch since you're not wasting HP/TQ twisting the car.
And I guess you have sub-connectors ?

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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Doug G, yes i already have sfc's. its a M6 car.

RamAir95TA, thanks man, i just thought that with the right rear bag in it might help it from rolling over so much, is that wrong? and do you think id be better off running the stock rear sway bar for time being? and if i get these springs would they work with say a QA1 gen f front shock?
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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and i was thinking of just using the bmr anti roll bar, do any of u see a problem with it? reason i ask is i do drive this car everyday rain, shine, and snow and am under the impression that the antiroll bar isnt very street friendly so i want to be able to just disconnect the links when im on the road.
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and i was thinking of just using the bmr anti roll bar, do any of u see a problem with it? reason i ask is i do drive this car everyday rain, shine, and snow and am under the impression that the antiroll bar isnt very street friendly so i want to be able to just disconnect the links when im on the road.
IMO running any kind of ARB is safer than nothing at all. I have a nice midwest ARB and I have no issues at all with it. I dont drive my car hardly but I could if I wanted with no issues. Hook up your stock one for the time being until you can afford one. Since your on a budget I wouldnt buy the drag springs, instead use the money to buy a nice ARB to keep your car from twisting and plant both tires.
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 12:59 AM
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IMO running any kind of ARB is safer than nothing at all. I have a nice midwest ARB and I have no issues at all with it. I dont drive my car hardly but I could if I wanted with no issues. Hook up your stock one for the time being until you can afford one. Since your on a budget I wouldnt buy the drag springs, instead use the money to buy a nice ARB to keep your car from twisting and plant both tires.
i think im beginning to agree with you on that idea, at least that way ill be done with the problem instead of trying to mask it.
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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not to hijack but, would the bmr drag bar be big enough to where u could remove the front sway bar and still daily drive comfortable?
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The size of the rear bar has nothing to do with how the front of the car rolls.

FWIW I ran a stock rear swaybar and no front swaybar for 11 years and never complained about the body roll. Just remember it's not there and don't get too crazy.
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