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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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I see pictures of a lot of cars on Tech that claim to run in the 10's and even 9's and a LOT of them don't have even a 6 point roll bar. I'm sure that a lot of them are giving an estimate (a very generous estimate, in my guess) of what their car can do. I can't believe that they are paying to make passes, blowing a low number and getting kicked out right after it.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Some tracks aren't very strict on safety rules especially for test and tunes.
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Alot of tracks, if you have a private rental won't even look at the cars.

Is it safe, absolutely NOT. Should it be allowed? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

But, being that I don't own a track I can only speak from a safety standpoint. Track owner, gets someone that wants to pay 250 for a rental day, chances are he's going to let the guy make a bunch of hits.


It's not just a bad idea, becuase of the safety aspect, but the car's going to twist, and all the added chassis structure from a cage really helps prevent that, keep the car strait and solid for a long time...

You build 9 second power in a car that's not caged and flog it hard on a regular basis, that whole car will be a rattle trap, and be twisted up in next to no time. Seen this happen a ton of times to nice cars, that end up losing a t top, end up with doors that don't shut right, creases in the rear 1/4's start showing up then they wonder why when the car is on jackstands one has to be up another click to even make contact with the body of the car.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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They usually give you 2 to 3 passes before kicking you out.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
You build 9 second power in a car that's not caged and flog it hard on a regular basis, that whole car will be a rattle trap, and be twisted up in next to no time. .
On f body's yes, definately. On Vettes or other full frame cars not so much.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 04:18 AM
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I've made 5 or so 10.20 passes at my local track this year w no cage no driveshaft loop no blow down tube on the bottle no battery cutoff switch no fire jacket. I'm sure there is more but u get the point. You can get away with it a few times before they tell you you need everything next time to pass tech.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 05:00 AM
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this ^, i had a buddy running low 10s took them a few times to catch on and our track is strict,op you have to show proof on tech to get any kind of time slip next to your name, you ever think there are just alot of sick rides on tech, i mean we are not talking one state here, there is bound to be a few monsters out there lol
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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the main reason i never did all of those requirements to meet NHRA tech rules, especially the cage is because i drove my car every week on the street. I cruised the car more than i raced it. theres lots of guys with 7-800hp in stock apearing cars with full interior no cage that occasionally go to the track and bust off a 9 or 10sec pass.
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i agree, having a cage is a pain in the ***, that why alot of people dont do them, nothing says sleeper like a cage lol
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
Some tracks aren't very strict on safety rules especially for test and tunes.
So very true.This is how tech goes at a local track we go to no matter how fast the car.

Official: Got a helmet?

You: Yup in the passenger seat.

Official: Ok, ya'll have fun.

You: Thanks!

We had a BBC trans am that ran 9.60's on motor and we didn't have a fire suit or even a 5 point harness. We had the factory lap belt.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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We can only hope they learn before something bad happens. I have a 6 point and I haven't hit 11.49 yet. I did it for my safety and to keep the car somewhat rigid. I dd my car this way too. There really is no excuse for it and I hope tracks start pushing for safety in the new year.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Alot of tracks, if you have a private rental won't even look at the cars.

Is it safe, absolutely NOT. Should it be allowed? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

But, being that I don't own a track I can only speak from a safety standpoint. Track owner, gets someone that wants to pay 250 for a rental day, chances are he's going to let the guy make a bunch of hits.


It's not just a bad idea, becuase of the safety aspect, but the car's going to twist, and all the added chassis structure from a cage really helps prevent that, keep the car strait and solid for a long time...

You build 9 second power in a car that's not caged and flog it hard on a regular basis, that whole car will be a rattle trap, and be twisted up in next to no time. Seen this happen a ton of times to nice cars, that end up losing a t top, end up with doors that don't shut right, creases in the rear 1/4's start showing up then they wonder why when the car is on jackstands one has to be up another click to even make contact with the body of the car.
I think it should be allowed if someone wants to make a solo pass. That way the only person you are endangering is yourself. Not my problem when someone else is too dumb to have the correct safety equipment.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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We can only hope they learn before something bad happens. I have a 6 point and I haven't hit 11.49 yet. I did it for my safety and to keep the car somewhat rigid. I dd my car this way too. There really is no excuse for it and I hope tracks start pushing for safety in the new year.
If tracks ban these people from running they are just going to do it on the street. Stupid people always find a way to kill themselves.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tektrans
On f body's yes, definately. On Vettes or other full frame cars not so much.
You're right I should have stated a unibody car. Something witha full frame it's not as bad.... but it's still eventually going to happen. Just not as fast.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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I will not give the track name, but it is in SC. Tech. is a helment and seat belt. Also no A/C on(water on track). Been 10.96 with no problems but they did ban a vett. that was trapping over 135+ with no cage. Safe, probably not but a lot safer than street racing around here. We just had a person killed a couple of weeks ago about 40 miles from here. Crashed and killed a bystander. Just something to think about.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
If tracks ban these people from running they are just going to do it on the street. Stupid people always find a way to kill themselves.
Doesn't bother me the slightest. If you have no respect for your own life/safety, nevermind others, go get hurt and cry foul when no one cares.

Originally Posted by buzz12586
I think it should be allowed if someone wants to make a solo pass. That way the only person you are endangering is yourself. Not my problem when someone else is too dumb to have the correct safety equipment.
Then you run into issues with the track being held liable when something does go wrong. Hell, there is no shield around the track to keep everything contained there. And waivers only hold so much water.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by farmington
I see pictures of a lot of cars on Tech that claim to run in the 10's and even 9's and a LOT of them don't have even a 6 point roll bar. I'm sure that a lot of them are giving an estimate (a very generous estimate, in my guess) of what their car can do. I can't believe that they are paying to make passes, blowing a low number and getting kicked out right after it.
why is that so hard to believe, go to a no et event at Milan there are much faster cars running there that have little to no safety equipment they don't tech hardly at all on those type of events.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
So very true.This is how tech goes at a local track we go to no matter how fast the car.

Official: Got a helmet?

You: Yup in the passenger seat.

Official: Ok, ya'll have fun.

You: Thanks!

We had a BBC trans am that ran 9.60's on motor and we didn't have a fire suit or even a 5 point harness. We had the factory lap belt.
I received this article in an email this week.
Car had a roll bar but not cage.

The driver's "A" pillar says it all why you should have a cage.


http://www.dragzine.com/news/hump-da...injures-driver


Mike
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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I like how they throw in the donation at the end of the article. Sucks what happened but shame on him for not doing it correctly with all of the necessary safety equipment. You never know when something will go wrong and when it does, you'll be glad the proper equipment is in the car.
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