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Old 03-26-2012, 08:31 PM
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Eeh I wouldn't say that. Just building way more then I need to do what I want to do with it.
Fwiw, here's one of the bullets that I was looking at for referance:

http://www.racingjunk.com/Drag-Racin...OLET-565-.html

Not 100% what I am looking for but it's pretty damn close. Certainly ran fast enough to be able to tune it way back, and have enough there to really ruin someone's day
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This is an interesting discussion.
I don't see why one would want to deviate from their comfort zone. Carbs have been getting it done since the beginning of racing and will continue to do so.
EFI definately has advantages over a carb, but in no way is it necessary for what Jay is looking to do.

Now you can't say I never stuck up for you. There's a 1st for everything.

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Hell that motor I posted up isn't nessassary at all either LOL, but it sure would be fun with both guns turned on

I'm not for or against EFI as a general statement. I am however, not really comfortable tuning it from scratch. Adjusting an existing tune, adding some timing, taking some away, changing the fueling a little sure. Building a tune from scratch on a motor I have 25 grand into?

No.

I only have one guy I'd be comfortable building that tune file and that's Kevin. I have faith he could do it. But, I still think that it would take him at the track to really get the most out of it.

Carb stuff, like I said, I have a pretty deep pool of people I can pull knowledge from in that if I can't figure it out myself.
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Its not as hard as some of the "tuners" want you to think it is.

The new FAST stuff has correction and self learning modes.... thing will just about tune itself N/A.

Turning 2 guns on you need a little more knowledge. Let me know if you need any help if you decide to go that route.
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ATV regardless what I do, carb or efi it's going to have at least one kit, probably 2 on it.

I don't NEED it to do what I want to do for racing, if the car will run 8.30 in the heat on a marginal track (with a 29.5 slick) I'm good to go, one kit would be plenty to do that I'm sure... may not even need one at all, or maybe just for the last 3 seconds, or first 3 seconds of the run or something like that.... 2nd one is to shut people up, grudge stuff, that type of thing. Noone will ever know what it will do with the wick lit
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
regardless what I do, carb or efi it's going to have at least one kit, probably 2 on it.
Tuning your Nitrous won't make a bit of difference weather you use a carb or EFI. Nitrous tuning is the same regardless unless you use dry which I most likely won't ever do.
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The dry thing, if you are running efi will work, I don't think dry with a carb would be a good way to go though... but I'm kind of old school with that too, and will probably stick with what I know.

I'm a creature of habit when it comes to this stuff, once I get comfortable with a specific setup it takes alot to make me want to get away from it. For something else to come along and make me want to change, it has to dramaticially decrease maintenance, or be super easy, like no thought required type of easy. That kind of stuff, at the level the car will be doesn't really apply I don't think.

I am way overbuilding to run the 8.50 index, but at least I know the car's there for anything I want to do down the road, and the motor will certainly take anything I decide to toss it's way if I get a hair across my ****.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6

I am way overbuilding to run the 8.50 index


That's one of the funniest statements I've ever seen you make.

You obviously don't know a thing about the cars you'll compete against.
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Ok let me re-phrase that. I'm overbuilding the car for what IT has to run.

I walked around shakedown enough to get a good look at a bunch of them. I don't think there's a single car running that class that can't run 7.50 on any given day.... from what I saw it looked like the approach I'm taking (alot more then what's needed) is a common theme.
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Its 2012 in case any of you guys didnt know.

Carbs are dinosaurs !
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I did find a good deal on a 632 alcohol motor with a flying toilet on it.... that's not a carb
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Ok let me re-phrase that. I'm overbuilding the car for what IT has to run.

I walked around shakedown enough to get a good look at a bunch of them. I don't think there's a single car running that class that can't run 7.50 on any given day.... from what I saw it looked like the approach I'm taking (alot more then what's needed) is a common theme.
OK. Sorry. I misinterpreted what you meant.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I did find a good deal on a 632 alcohol motor with a flying toilet on it.... that's not a carb
Just a reminder that Alcohol isn't legal in 8.50
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Yeah I saw that... would have made a real good motor if it was allowed.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Yeah I saw that... would have made a real good motor if it was allowed.
Before you look to by anything, talk to Mike T. like we discussed.
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I will. Just looking around.. if a real smoker of a deal pops up, I might jump at it.

That 565 with 2 kits and the sheet metal intake I posted the link to for 15 seems like a pretty good one... but I'm not going to worry about it until the car's done. Hopefully, that will be soon.
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any one try this battery?

http://www.batterystuff.com/batterie...36a3-bs12.html

it weighs less than 5lbs, has 540 cca, and is only $315

im seriously thinking about trying it as it would drop 30 lbs out of my car
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Originally Posted by 71 chevy
any one try this battery?

http://www.batterystuff.com/batterie...36a3-bs12.html

it weighs less than 5lbs, has 540 cca, and is only $315

im seriously thinking about trying it as it would drop 30 lbs out of my car
I've dd'ing that one for a while now.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I've dd'ing that one for a while now.
can you give more info? since i posted, i did some research and it seems the specs are greatly exagerrated,and its generally a POS?
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I don't know what else to tell you besides it starts my car when it's in the teens outside. I would say a bigger one would probably be better for larger engines than mine.


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