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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:49 PM
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Firehawk441 I got on QTP's website to look at his muffler and I didn't see it on there. Tell me if I'm just plain dumb and missing it or if it isn't on there.
I don't think he ever put them on the website yet. E-Mail them and ask for some pictures and info. If you're unsuccesful, I'll get the info for you.
I was under the impression they were ready to start selling them to the public.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
How fast did you get the car to go n/a?
I would think you already know that.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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I honestly never kept that close an eye on things, I know it was faster then I ever went with mine, but I also know your car was a potato chip compared to my sled. I'm going to guess on the weight, 3050 to 3000, is that about right?

I know when mine went the fastest n/a I ever went with it, which was 10.54 @ 127(have that slip here and I read it twice) lvd's scale said 3410, 1/4 tank of gas, me in it.

I do recall that after you put that motor in Barry's car and did the solid roller it went 9.9 didn't it?
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I honestly never kept that close an eye on things, I know it was faster then I ever went with mine, but I also know your car was a potato chip compared to my sled. I'm going to guess on the weight, 3050 to 3000, is that about right?

I know when mine went the fastest n/a I ever went with it, which was 10.54 @ 127(have that slip here and I read it twice) lvd's scale said 3410, 1/4 tank of gas, me in it.

I do recall that after you put that motor in Barry's car and did the solid roller it went 9.9 didn't it?
Maybe a 13.5-1 compression 402 ci "race motor" that trapped 127 is the reason why your car never saw a change in exhaust setups (tuned header length,etc.)

PS. Ten years of doing something wrong, doesnt make it right...
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cody161
Firehawk441 I got on QTP's website to look at his muffler and I didn't see it on there. Tell me if I'm just plain dumb and missing it or if it isn't on there.
Here is the catalog page for our new AR3 muffler.
http://quicktimeperformance.com/FORUMS/QTPAR3.pdf

Its not on the site just yet. Call us if you are interested in it.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6

I do recall that after you put that motor in Barry's car and did the solid roller it went 9.9 didn't it?
Sorry, but you're off quite a bit. Barry went 9.60 @ 140 with his manual tranny and I went 9.86 @ 134 with an auto.
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I do recall that after you put that motor in Barry's car and did the solid roller it went 9.9 didn't it?
My car ran with the 403 9.60@140. NA with 1 7/8 headers.
On a 200 shot is 8.96@155 also with 1 7/8 headers.

There is no need for larger primaries. Of the testing that i have done over the years with our race cars we have not found a need for big headers. Even with the very expensive exhaust calculator we have it shows no need for larger primaries on my car. Only thing it does show and i will agree with is to change from a 2 3/4"-3" Merge to a 3"-3 1/2" Merge Collector.

Now for the people that think running open headers is better. let me ask you this question:
Are going going faster because you have more flow or are you faster because you just dropped 100lbs off your car????

My car when it was high 9s ran faster with a the Y pipe and a single cutout over opening the dual cutouts.

Also if i care to run a faster NA time i would put my 1 3/4" header back on but that is not the goal of the car.

I hope our R&D for the past 15 years helps
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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So for a guy that cant make his own exhaust, where can we get this Y pipe?
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TA1364
So for a guy that cant make his own exhaust, where can we get this Y pipe?
Any Y pipe that has the flowmaster Y collector. 3"-4".
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Quick Time

Now for the people that think running open headers is better. let me ask you this question:
Are going going faster because you have more flow or are you faster because you just dropped 100lbs off your car????

My car when it was high 9s ran faster with a the Y pipe and a single cutout over opening the dual cutouts.
Ya I brought up the weight. But if your running in a heads up class and added weight already, I'd take the x (xx?) hp.

Have you seen what it dose when you add a closed cutout over not having one. When you put the dead end(s) in the system that add to the cutout "gain" people don't think about.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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FWIW I'm running 6" extensions off my 1 7/8x3" ARH headers and vibrant mufflers at the ends of each of those extensions.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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So from what I gather in this thread 2" headers on a nitrous 408 aren't worth it compared to 1 7/8" headers?
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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408 with nitrous could use a 2" header. IMO
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Nitrous likes big high flowing intakes, heads, and exhaust. I don't think 2" on a 400+ c.i. stroker is going to hurt anything except maybe some torque below 4000rpm.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Nitrous likes big high flowing intakes, heads, and exhaust. I don't think 2" on a 400+ c.i. stroker is going to hurt anything except maybe some torque below 4000rpm.
Below 4000rpm? Who spends any time down there anyway?
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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You have more tq then you need with any decent sized shot anyways.
Losing some of it will help you get down track.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
Below 4000rpm? Who spends any time down there anyway?
Not this guy, 5000 stall eradicates that problem!
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Not this guy, 5000 stall eradicates that problem!
So how are you liking the car? I kick myself in the butt for selling it! lol.
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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I talked to my machine shop that builds a lot of race engines and has for a long time . Also with hedman headers about this same issue.
I am building an 82 s10 with a max effort 347 ls1 12.1/1 compression th350 5000 stall & 9" rear with 4.56 gears . It currently has 28x10.5 slicks but plan to go to a 30x9 radial slick.

I asked both about headers and both told me with my light weight 2800 lbs and the 5000 stall and gear ratio that I should go 1"7/8-2" stepped.
My plan is to build a 408 next year so that is part of the reason but they both said that these headers will work great in my power range.

I also plan to run mufflers to the rear end and the big tune will help the exhaust system.
Any comments on this?
Also the truck intake I have been running is going to be replaced with a pro flo.
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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Calvin Elston. Best in the country. Listen to him. You will be surprised what sizes make the best power when you design them right. 4-2-1 headers. Super easy to install.

http://www.elstonheaders.com/index.html

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