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Old 06-07-2012, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by studderin
did you run that on the dyno?
Ive been told privetly form a few people that did, and it was 40-60 WHP over running a open TB. This was on 5-800 whp NA setups, but its whatturned me away for running it for street driving.

If anything I want to make a bigger wide box to bolt over the 4150TB, and tube feed that with a maff in it. And geattring air (sealed) from the front outside of the car.
NA setups don't like the tight carb hat on the TB.
i tested mine last year and i only lost 7rwhp with the hat piped to the stock air box. but i do run mine wide open 95% of the time and im sure it gets more air over the cowl to make a bigger improvement at speed instead of on the dyno
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Originally Posted by tunedup
So a bolt on car with an automatic makes 362/370 with a miss????
It wasn't as bad as that graph made it seem. It was a slight stutter, so I did the fuel filter and plugs.

Here was my dyno thread ... no one seemed impressed I guess.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-auto-ls1.html
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Awesome results! Looks like it's workin out pretty good!
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Originally Posted by armyboyatc
This is a daily. The way I figured it up is that because it costs less to fill up but I get less gas mileage then it essentially costs the same as running on 93.
Whats your fuel setup and how much miles do you get for a full tank? Is it a DRASTIC difference? Really thinking about doing it.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Whats your fuel setup and how much miles do you get for a full tank? Is it a DRASTIC difference? Really thinking about doing it.
Fuel setup is racetronix fuel pump and Hotwire kit. 60 lb injectors and teflon fuel lines from the aluminum line to the rails.

I haven't gotten the car back yet. I'm going to get it Saturday. The tuner still has it working on drivability stuff.
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Well I love my E85 and this seals the deal on doing the vic jr and 4150. wish I could find a direct comparison of the Jr to the super vic though as Im torn on that
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Originally Posted by Grr
Well I love my E85 and this seals the deal on doing the vic jr and 4150. wish I could find a direct comparison of the Jr to the super vic though as Im torn on that
I think the super Vic will make more power. The reason I didn't go with that is because I wouldn't be able to keep my wiper blades. Because this is a daily driver, that stuff is important lol. If ur car isn't a daily or you don't mind using lots of rain-x then i say go for it. I would love to see what a super Vic could offer over this Vic junior.
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I would think the super vic would be too much intake unless you port the heads to match the runners, because out of the box the super vic is larger than the stock ports. Where the vic jr is about the same size as the stock head ports
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I will have ported heads and cam, I will make it work with the wipers if I go that route, only thing I dont like is the $150 price difference!
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I have a super vic with afr 225's and the super vic is the same size as my head ports so your stock heads will need to be heavily ported imo, it is also and inch or so taller than the vic jr so i would like to see how your going to keep your wipers. As far as price i got mine new for 365 from a sponser on here.
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what the difference in timing with the two tunes?

and im with turbociv, it needs to be leaned out! ALOT! id put it mid to high 11s if not higher
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Originally Posted by sprayedenali
what the difference in timing with the two tunes?

and im with turbociv, it needs to be leaned out! ALOT! id put it mid to high 11s if not higher
It is lean you are just looking at it from a different point of view, 8.5 Afr on e85 is virtually the same as 12.8 on the gas scale at .87 lambda gasoline is 12.79 and e85 is 8.50
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If the wideband was recalibrated for e85 then everything I said is out the window. But assuming it wasn't, then I stand by what I said.

I understand the lambda/stoich/AFR correlation with the two fuels and know the differences is the two readings but unless the wideband was adjusted then his AFR is way off
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I would agree with you 100% if it was not re calibrated, but i'm 99% certain it was after talking to the turner yesterday.
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well never mind then..... haha



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