For those of you who are thinking of switching to a 4150 TB setup or E85 Take a look.
06-06-2012, 01:35 PM
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For those of you who are thinking of switching to a 4150 TB setup or E85 Take a look. Car is a 1999 camaro SS M6 with 4.10 gears. 100% STOCK internals. This car is a bolt on car only.
Mods.
FAST 4150
Vic Junior Intake
1 3/4 long tubes
TSP true dual exhaust
UDP
Car has 2 tunes in it. 1 for E85 and the other for 93.
E85 is in red 93 is in blue. Car was tuned on E85 because I am planning on running a healthy shot of nitrous and the E85 should help out then.
Mods.
FAST 4150
Vic Junior Intake
1 3/4 long tubes
TSP true dual exhaust
UDP
Car has 2 tunes in it. 1 for E85 and the other for 93.
E85 is in red 93 is in blue. Car was tuned on E85 because I am planning on running a healthy shot of nitrous and the E85 should help out then.
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06-06-2012, 05:07 PM
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did you run that on the dyno?
Ive been told privetly form a few people that did, and it was 40-60 WHP over running a open TB. This was on 5-800 whp NA setups, but its whatturned me away for running it for street driving.
If anything I want to make a bigger wide box to bolt over the 4150TB, and tube feed that with a maff in it. And geattring air (sealed) from the front outside of the car.
NA setups don't like the tight carb hat on the TB.
Ive been told privetly form a few people that did, and it was 40-60 WHP over running a open TB. This was on 5-800 whp NA setups, but its whatturned me away for running it for street driving.
If anything I want to make a bigger wide box to bolt over the 4150TB, and tube feed that with a maff in it. And geattring air (sealed) from the front outside of the car.
NA setups don't like the tight carb hat on the TB.
06-06-2012, 05:16 PM
#9
did you run that on the dyno?
Ive been told privetly form a few people that did, and it was 40-60 WHP over running a open TB. This was on 5-800 whp NA setups, but its whatturned me away for running it for street driving.
If anything I want to make a bigger wide box to bolt over the 4150TB, and tube feed that with a maff in it. And geattring air (sealed) from the front outside of the car.
NA setups don't like the tight carb hat on the TB.
Ive been told privetly form a few people that did, and it was 40-60 WHP over running a open TB. This was on 5-800 whp NA setups, but its whatturned me away for running it for street driving.
If anything I want to make a bigger wide box to bolt over the 4150TB, and tube feed that with a maff in it. And geattring air (sealed) from the front outside of the car.
NA setups don't like the tight carb hat on the TB.
06-06-2012, 07:52 PM
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This is a daily. The way I figured it up is that because it costs less to fill up but I get less gas mileage then it essentially costs the same as running on 93.
06-06-2012, 08:12 PM
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Was a 01 and it was American Racing Headers 1 7/8ths, ARH ORY, SLP PowerFlo, MTI lid, 4L60e and the car had a SFI steel flex plate due to the over torquing issues on the stockers.
For those looking at the graph, the dip at the end was due to a bad plug. I put it on the dyno to diagnose the break up because it was hard to really feel that high up in the RPMs at WOT.
Awesome results Trey. Anyone have any other bolt on dyno numbers they can compare too? I think both are cars are in the top 5% of what bolt on cars make.
For those looking at the graph, the dip at the end was due to a bad plug. I put it on the dyno to diagnose the break up because it was hard to really feel that high up in the RPMs at WOT.
Awesome results Trey. Anyone have any other bolt on dyno numbers they can compare too? I think both are cars are in the top 5% of what bolt on cars make.
06-07-2012, 07:46 AM
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OP, what does the car weigh? Is it going to see the track at all?
So a bolt on car with an automatic makes 362/370 with a miss???? 
Was a 01 and it was American Racing Headers 1 7/8ths, ARH ORY, SLP PowerFlo, MTI lid, 4L60e and the car had a SFI steel flex plate due to the over torquing issues on the stockers.
For those looking at the graph, the dip at the end was due to a bad plug. I put it on the dyno to diagnose the break up because it was hard to really feel that high up in the RPMs at WOT.
Awesome results Trey. Anyone have any other bolt on dyno numbers they can compare too? I think both are cars are in the top 5% of what bolt on cars make.
For those looking at the graph, the dip at the end was due to a bad plug. I put it on the dyno to diagnose the break up because it was hard to really feel that high up in the RPMs at WOT.
Awesome results Trey. Anyone have any other bolt on dyno numbers they can compare too? I think both are cars are in the top 5% of what bolt on cars make.
06-07-2012, 08:03 AM
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Was a 01 and it was American Racing Headers 1 7/8ths, ARH ORY, SLP PowerFlo, MTI lid, 4L60e and the car had a SFI steel flex plate due to the over torquing issues on the stockers.
For those looking at the graph, the dip at the end was due to a bad plug. I put it on the dyno to diagnose the break up because it was hard to really feel that high up in the RPMs at WOT.
Awesome results Trey. Anyone have any other bolt on dyno numbers they can compare too? I think both are cars are in the top 5% of what bolt on cars make.
For those looking at the graph, the dip at the end was due to a bad plug. I put it on the dyno to diagnose the break up because it was hard to really feel that high up in the RPMs at WOT.
Awesome results Trey. Anyone have any other bolt on dyno numbers they can compare too? I think both are cars are in the top 5% of what bolt on cars make.
E85 runs more fuel than regular 93. So what you see as extremely rich on that dyno graph, is actually not rich and right on par. Its just the difference between the 2 fuels.
I asked my tuner why and 15 mins later when he was talking about lambda and theories etc, I gave up. haha.
Idk if it was a straight up miss but a slight hickup is what he described to me. His car was legit man. People accused him of having a kit on that car for years lol. It was def a strong car.
