For those of you who are thinking of switching to a 4150 TB setup or E85 Take a look.
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did you run that on the dyno?
Ive been told privetly form a few people that did, and it was 40-60 WHP over running a open TB. This was on 5-800 whp NA setups, but its whatturned me away for running it for street driving.
If anything I want to make a bigger wide box to bolt over the 4150TB, and tube feed that with a maff in it. And geattring air (sealed) from the front outside of the car.
NA setups don't like the tight carb hat on the TB.
Ive been told privetly form a few people that did, and it was 40-60 WHP over running a open TB. This was on 5-800 whp NA setups, but its whatturned me away for running it for street driving.
If anything I want to make a bigger wide box to bolt over the 4150TB, and tube feed that with a maff in it. And geattring air (sealed) from the front outside of the car.
NA setups don't like the tight carb hat on the TB.
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It wasn't as bad as that graph made it seem. It was a slight stutter, so I did the fuel filter and plugs.
Here was my dyno thread ... no one seemed impressed I guess.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-auto-ls1.html
Here was my dyno thread ... no one seemed impressed I guess.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-auto-ls1.html
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I think the super Vic will make more power. The reason I didn't go with that is because I wouldn't be able to keep my wiper blades. Because this is a daily driver, that stuff is important lol. If ur car isn't a daily or you don't mind using lots of rain-x then i say go for it. I would love to see what a super Vic could offer over this Vic junior.
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I would think the super vic would be too much intake unless you port the heads to match the runners, because out of the box the super vic is larger than the stock ports. Where the vic jr is about the same size as the stock head ports
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I have a super vic with afr 225's and the super vic is the same size as my head ports so your stock heads will need to be heavily ported imo, it is also and inch or so taller than the vic jr so i would like to see how your going to keep your wipers. As far as price i got mine new for 365 from a sponser on here.
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It is lean you are just looking at it from a different point of view, 8.5 Afr on e85 is virtually the same as 12.8 on the gas scale at .87 lambda gasoline is 12.79 and e85 is 8.50
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If the wideband was recalibrated for e85 then everything I said is out the window. But assuming it wasn't, then I stand by what I said.
I understand the lambda/stoich/AFR correlation with the two fuels and know the differences is the two readings but unless the wideband was adjusted then his AFR is way off
I understand the lambda/stoich/AFR correlation with the two fuels and know the differences is the two readings but unless the wideband was adjusted then his AFR is way off