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I see everyone talking about the harness. Is it also required when running fast enough to need a cage? Does anybody have a good link to a complete set of rules for different ET's?
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i have a wolfe 6pt, i paid extra for a swingout on both sides, the only time they ever get used is if my plump friends want a ride. i was daily with this car, now it is more of an after work, good weather weekend car, but the cage isnt bad imo. the only thing i dont like is i got steel not moly! i wish i got moly!
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A 5 pt harness is required (by NHRA rules) if you have a rollbar in the car. It doesn't matter how fast you are going - if you have a bar, you have to have the harness (again, by NHRA rules).
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Originally Posted by SUX2BU
Here's my rollbar its a Wolfe 6 point bolt in i painted it red.
its really not that hard to get in and out everyday.
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its really not that hard to get in and out everyday.
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Originally Posted by BLK02WS6
the looks you get driving a car with a cage on the street regularly - priceless!!
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but with a lopin car and a big cage i cant get any street races anymore. i even painted it black to blend in with the interior instea of white, but still no luck.
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Originally Posted by BIGBOS
Is it really that bad not having the swingouts, is it a pain in the *** getting in and out of the car?
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
yea, its a great feeling when you have the tops off and everyone can see it.
but with a lopin car and a big cage i cant get any street races anymore. i even painted it black to blend in with the interior instea of white, but still no luck.
oh well, now i have to go to the track more often to get my fix. ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
but with a lopin car and a big cage i cant get any street races anymore. i even painted it black to blend in with the interior instea of white, but still no luck.
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Here's mine,, it's a Wolfe 6 point, weld in with swingouts. I haven't pulled the swingouts out since I put it in. IMO it's not bad, getting in is just like sliding over a bar into the seat,, getting out can be a pain, especially in a tight parking spot.
I need to get some seats now,, anyone have any suggestions?? Links?
I need to get some seats now,, anyone have any suggestions?? Links?
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Originally Posted by BIGBOS
Is it really that bad not having the swingouts, is it a pain in the *** getting in and out of the car?
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Speaking of insurance, has anyone tried to get a discount for making the car safer? Or is it best to not tell them so they don't ask why you have one? Cause I know racing will void insurance. That's why tow vehicles are good- so if you wreck you can take the car away and then send it off the freway and then call the insurance.
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I would not recommend telling your insurance company that you have a rollcage - that leads to "why do you have that" and "how much horsepower do you have" - next thing you know you'll be looking for a new insurance company. When we mod and race cars like ours, we are taking a risk that if anything ever happens to it, we may have a problem.
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Yea my insurance company is pretty close to dropping me because my father accidently told them I had a supercharger on the car with slicks......good idea......
And he wanted to know about liability......HAHAHA
Anyone know how much a 10pt cage w/no swingouts would be welded up/labor? Any ball park prices here, anyone do it?
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And he wanted to know about liability......HAHAHA
Anyone know how much a 10pt cage w/no swingouts would be welded up/labor? Any ball park prices here, anyone do it?
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I've been daily driving my car with a 5-point rollbar in it for about a year now. Some days I curse the side bars, most of the time it's not a problem. You get used to sliding over it really quick. I plan on making the door bar removable sometime this summer, and possibly putting in the 2nd removable door bar on the passenger side just to finish it off.
I left my stock seat belts in the car and I use them while daily driving. The lower 3 belts of my harness neatly tuck under the seat and the shoulder straps are usually either hanging from the crossbar behind the seat or I take them off and put them in the back of the car.
FYI. I have a competition engineering 8-point kit (same thing jegs/summit sells), though I did not install the trans tunnel brace bars. I had the door bars bent slightly and the back downbars a bit so things would fit more the way I wanted them to.
I left my stock seat belts in the car and I use them while daily driving. The lower 3 belts of my harness neatly tuck under the seat and the shoulder straps are usually either hanging from the crossbar behind the seat or I take them off and put them in the back of the car.
FYI. I have a competition engineering 8-point kit (same thing jegs/summit sells), though I did not install the trans tunnel brace bars. I had the door bars bent slightly and the back downbars a bit so things would fit more the way I wanted them to.
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Originally Posted by BOOSTAT4500
I am finally facing the fact that I'm going to need a cage to continue racing. I just ran 12.05 at 5000' elevation, and am moving to sea level next month, so I'm expecting low 11's. How bad is it having a cage in a daily driver? I do an easy 15k a year so am I going to get sick of it real quick? I figure I'd do removable door pieces to help a little. Also, any recomendations on which brand to get? Wolf is the only one I've seen so far, are there any others? Thanks
heres a paragraph i made for the fast ls1 site [it is also post in ls1 tech a few times as people asked ] alot of people are useing the wrong terminoligy] ,a cage is a cage and a roll bar is a roll bar[a roll bar can have 5pts 6pts 7pts and8 pts,a cage can have 6 pt ,8,10 12pts] a lot of people call up for cages and their trying to ask for roll bars its a common mistake
,most cages are actualy are 6pt unless 2 diagnal bars go to tunnel or frame connectors[before everyone jumps on me the 2 side bars usually go to the front uprights so unless you have the 2 diags like i said and they are mandatory when a cage is put on plates[pge 209 of rule book see diag. read D] if its a chassis car[ ie chevelle,malibu,corvetteanything with a full frame under it]the cage then has to be mounted to the chassis and dosnt require the 2 diags to tunnel. what else is needed are ,a window net,padding anywhere drivers helmet can contact[pge 203], and the instaler should put tabs for required shoulder harness [so its bolted to spine bar and cannot slip off you in case of accident]and if you go faster than 9.99 a chassis cert that should cover the basics hope this helps. bob
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Heres a quick pic of my 2002 Camaro Z28 with a Wolfe Cromoly 6-pt. Roll Bar w/swingout side bars & Simpson SFI padding & a Simpson Harness. Not that great of a pic, but you can get the idea of what it looks like.
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I too am looking for a cage for my 'vert. I am also glad to hear the pro's and con's of the Wolfe 6pt bolt-in, which I am considering, too. I haven't been able to find a good shop here in the FL panhandle to do a custom job. Just want the most room for the kids to joy ride, too.
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Originally Posted by purevilss
I too am looking for a cage for my 'vert. I am also glad to hear the pro's and con's of the Wolfe 6pt bolt-in, which I am considering, too. I haven't been able to find a good shop here in the FL panhandle to do a custom job. Just want the most room for the kids to joy ride, too.
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