What button/switch to use for line lock and where to put it?
01-06-2014, 10:46 AM
#62
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01-06-2014, 12:24 PM
#64
Sorry, I just have to ask: Who do you know stupid enough to hold the lone lock button down while driving, to ever apply the brakes while doing it?
And if you actually do know somebody that dumb, are you dumb enough to loan them your car?
Been racing over 50 years now, had line locks since they were first introduced not long after I started. I have never seen a line lock button fail, other than the rubber band that holds them to the shift lever break. Have, however seen toggle switches fail. An extra toggle switch is just one more thing to go wrong.
And if you actually do know somebody that dumb, are you dumb enough to loan them your car?
Been racing over 50 years now, had line locks since they were first introduced not long after I started. I have never seen a line lock button fail, other than the rubber band that holds them to the shift lever break. Have, however seen toggle switches fail. An extra toggle switch is just one more thing to go wrong.
01-06-2014, 01:15 PM
#65
Most tracks are flat. LOL
Low drag brakes & wheel bearings, high air pressure skinny fronts, make a car roll easier. If your car doesn't roll that easily and you go in far enough, the wind never blows, etc, and your car sits there OK, you can probably get away with that. Hope your clutch never drags enough to move your car. Most sharp drivers run an adjustable stop on the clutch pedal/linkage to barely release the clutch for quicker shifts. That will often make the car tend to move when revved high enough. Doesn't sound like some of you guys aren't "there".
Hope your car never moves, causing a red light.
Low drag brakes & wheel bearings, high air pressure skinny fronts, make a car roll easier. If your car doesn't roll that easily and you go in far enough, the wind never blows, etc, and your car sits there OK, you can probably get away with that. Hope your clutch never drags enough to move your car. Most sharp drivers run an adjustable stop on the clutch pedal/linkage to barely release the clutch for quicker shifts. That will often make the car tend to move when revved high enough. Doesn't sound like some of you guys aren't "there".
Hope your car never moves, causing a red light.
01-07-2014, 10:57 AM
#67
I am not stupid enough to mount the BUTTON where it could be accidentally pressed. People that would do that should NOT be modifying cars.
If somebody were to use a toggle switch instead of the button designed for a line lock, then was dumb enough to mount it where it could be accidentally turned on, they would most certainly have a safety issue.
Self induced due to stupidity, but still a safety problem.
If somebody were to use a toggle switch instead of the button designed for a line lock, then was dumb enough to mount it where it could be accidentally turned on, they would most certainly have a safety issue.
Self induced due to stupidity, but still a safety problem.
01-08-2014, 11:03 AM
#69
I am not stupid enough to mount the BUTTON where it could be accidentally pressed. People that would do that should NOT be modifying cars.
If somebody were to use a toggle switch instead of the button designed for a line lock, then was dumb enough to mount it where it could be accidentally turned on, they would most certainly have a safety issue.
Self induced due to stupidity, but still a safety problem.
If somebody were to use a toggle switch instead of the button designed for a line lock, then was dumb enough to mount it where it could be accidentally turned on, they would most certainly have a safety issue.
Self induced due to stupidity, but still a safety problem.
01-08-2014, 11:24 AM
#70
I have mine (the button that has come with real line locks for ever) on the collumn tilt lever. Others have them on the shift lever, on the front edge of the lever, out of the way unless you need it. Many stick guys use the Tee Handle with the button in the end for your thumb. Can't imagine a normal person driving down the street holding that one in either. How anybody could inadvertanly press one any of the places is beyond me.
If somebody bought an off-brand that came with no button, and use a toggle switch, I would hope they would put it in the ash tray (hoping whoever borrows the car does not smoke. lol) or some other place out of the way.
Who would borrow a car and just try out all the switches and buttons they see anyway? Nobody bright, or over 15.
They would certainly not be anybody I would loan a car to.
Nor, anybody that smokes, :-)
More wiring, switches and relays are just more things to have problems with. The KISS principle works well for most people. "Keep It Simple Stupid".
If somebody bought an off-brand that came with no button, and use a toggle switch, I would hope they would put it in the ash tray (hoping whoever borrows the car does not smoke. lol) or some other place out of the way.
Who would borrow a car and just try out all the switches and buttons they see anyway? Nobody bright, or over 15.
They would certainly not be anybody I would loan a car to.
Nor, anybody that smokes, :-)
More wiring, switches and relays are just more things to have problems with. The KISS principle works well for most people. "Keep It Simple Stupid".
01-08-2014, 12:10 PM
#71
I have mine (the button that has come with real line locks for ever) on the collumn tilt lever. Others have them on the shift lever, on the front edge of the lever, out of the way unless you need it. Many stick guys use the Tee Handle with the button in the end for your thumb. Can't imagine a normal person driving down the street holding that one in either. How anybody could inadvertanly press one any of the places is beyond me.
If somebody bought an off-brand that came with no button, and use a toggle switch, I would hope they would put it in the ash tray (hoping whoever borrows the car does not smoke. lol) or some other place out of the way.
Who would borrow a car and just try out all the switches and buttons they see anyway? Nobody bright, or over 15.
They would certainly not be anybody I would loan a car to.
Nor, anybody that smokes, :-)
More wiring, switches and relays are just more things to have problems with. The KISS principle works well for most people. "Keep It Simple Stupid".
If somebody bought an off-brand that came with no button, and use a toggle switch, I would hope they would put it in the ash tray (hoping whoever borrows the car does not smoke. lol) or some other place out of the way.
Who would borrow a car and just try out all the switches and buttons they see anyway? Nobody bright, or over 15.
They would certainly not be anybody I would loan a car to.
Nor, anybody that smokes, :-)
More wiring, switches and relays are just more things to have problems with. The KISS principle works well for most people. "Keep It Simple Stupid".
I have a buddy who has a 99 T/A with H/C. He and I both weigh around the 250 mark. We have an old school racer friend that weighs 130 lbs soaking wet so we threw him in the car and told him to not shift the car like his MVB th350 Nova. We told him 6 times not to manually shift it. Guess what he does? Yup, you guessed it.
No matter what you do, if your car is more of a street car, you have to make everything dummy proof
01-09-2014, 10:52 AM
#72
I have mine (the button that has come with real line locks for ever) on the collumn tilt lever. Others have them on the shift lever, on the front edge of the lever, out of the way unless you need it. Many stick guys use the Tee Handle with the button in the end for your thumb. Can't imagine a normal person driving down the street holding that one in either. How anybody could inadvertanly press one any of the places is beyond me.
If somebody bought an off-brand that came with no button, and use a toggle switch, I would hope they would put it in the ash tray (hoping whoever borrows the car does not smoke. lol) or some other place out of the way.
Who would borrow a car and just try out all the switches and buttons they see anyway? Nobody bright, or over 15.
They would certainly not be anybody I would loan a car to.
Nor, anybody that smokes, :-)
More wiring, switches and relays are just more things to have problems with. The KISS principle works well for most people. "Keep It Simple Stupid".
If somebody bought an off-brand that came with no button, and use a toggle switch, I would hope they would put it in the ash tray (hoping whoever borrows the car does not smoke. lol) or some other place out of the way.
Who would borrow a car and just try out all the switches and buttons they see anyway? Nobody bright, or over 15.
They would certainly not be anybody I would loan a car to.
Nor, anybody that smokes, :-)
More wiring, switches and relays are just more things to have problems with. The KISS principle works well for most people. "Keep It Simple Stupid".
