11.99 or under and using stock suspension ??
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11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? Anyone running 11's or better with NO aftermarket suspension parts? ( not looking for "yes, except my LCA's", etc... ) Reason I ask is that I haven't bought the first aftermarket suspension part, and I'm hesitant to if they're not going to help. Bottom line is I'd like to improve my 60's, but I don't feel like I'm spinning or wheel hopping on a good run. Best 60' so far is a 1.55 in summer. I know weight reduction would be one sure way, but I'd like to hear opinions on suspension.
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? [quote]Originally posted by BlackWS6:
<strong>Just curious, but what do you run 'em at while at the track?
Full loose?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've only had the shocks at the track once and had them set at 1 and left them alone since I was tuning w/ my MAFT. Next time I go, I will tighten them up a little and see how that goes.
BTW, Were you still interested in my converter?
later,
Steve
<strong>Just curious, but what do you run 'em at while at the track?
Full loose?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've only had the shocks at the track once and had them set at 1 and left them alone since I was tuning w/ my MAFT. Next time I go, I will tighten them up a little and see how that goes.
BTW, Were you still interested in my converter?
later,
Steve
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? I cut a best of 1.52 with the complete stock suspension including all rubber pieces <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> But I cheat cause I'm light <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0">
Now I'm in the process of adding the Hal Shocks and springs and moving up to ET Drags but I'll still have the stock torque arm, LCA's, PHB and all rubber pieces
I sort of have an idea where I'll 60 once I'm back but I ain't telling just yet <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
Now I'm in the process of adding the Hal Shocks and springs and moving up to ET Drags but I'll still have the stock torque arm, LCA's, PHB and all rubber pieces
I sort of have an idea where I'll 60 once I'm back but I ain't telling just yet <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
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Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? I actually like the HALS better than stock for the street. Like Steve said, settings 6 or 7 feel the best for the street, it actually feels like my swaybar was put back on the car.
I still havnt seen a 60' improvement yet with the HALS (aka QA1's) but Im having tranny problems. We shall see.
I still havnt seen a 60' improvement yet with the HALS (aka QA1's) but Im having tranny problems. We shall see.
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? [quote]Originally posted by 11SECSS:
<strong>No mods to suspension here and cutting a best of 1.56 to date.</strong><hr></blockquote>
01 mod don't count. <img src="images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Steve
<strong>No mods to suspension here and cutting a best of 1.56 to date.</strong><hr></blockquote>
01 mod don't count. <img src="images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Steve
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Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? You have a damn impressive car for a stock suspension, but suspension will help your 60'.
I pulled a 1.53 w/ my TP4000E and have yet to track test my new TP4400(hoping for 1.50's <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> ), but I really don't think I could of done that w/ my stock suspension.
IMO, the best to least needed suspension mods in order
Front Hals and drag springs: and up go the wheels like they never did before <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0">
SFC: they really do help keep the car straight off the line
LCA's: a noticeable difference in hooking on the street, not as much at the track
Torque arm: this eliminated my TCS activation I always got from busting around corners w/ the front swaybar off.
!front swaybar and a beefier rear swaybar: once again more noticeable on the street than at track
K-member and A-arms: taking 45 pounds off the front end surely never hurts, did I mention they look sweet as hell. <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
APHR: I'm still not quite sure what this has done to help me yet, but I have one. <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">
Rear shocks and springs: I don't have and I don't feel I need them right now, the car is having no squating problems.
I can't comment on LCA brackets, I don't know how much they help. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
later, <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Steve
I pulled a 1.53 w/ my TP4000E and have yet to track test my new TP4400(hoping for 1.50's <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> ), but I really don't think I could of done that w/ my stock suspension.
IMO, the best to least needed suspension mods in order
Front Hals and drag springs: and up go the wheels like they never did before <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0">
SFC: they really do help keep the car straight off the line
LCA's: a noticeable difference in hooking on the street, not as much at the track
Torque arm: this eliminated my TCS activation I always got from busting around corners w/ the front swaybar off.
!front swaybar and a beefier rear swaybar: once again more noticeable on the street than at track
K-member and A-arms: taking 45 pounds off the front end surely never hurts, did I mention they look sweet as hell. <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
APHR: I'm still not quite sure what this has done to help me yet, but I have one. <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">
Rear shocks and springs: I don't have and I don't feel I need them right now, the car is having no squating problems.
I can't comment on LCA brackets, I don't know how much they help. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
later, <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Steve
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Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? Steve, I have the TP4400 and I was expecting at least 1.50's as well. Only could muster 1.55 so far, so I'm either spinning a little and don't know it, the weather hasn't been cool enough yet, I'm too heavy, or a combination.
Can the front Hals along with the drag springs be tightened up enough to give good handling on the street?
Dave
Can the front Hals along with the drag springs be tightened up enough to give good handling on the street?
Dave
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Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? Terry has cut 1.49s on a stock suspension with just an airbag !swaybar. Airbag is cheap and one of the first things I would add. I was running 11s with a stock suspension also and I added Hals, airbag and LCAs all at different times. THe LCAs didn't help, airbag a little and the Hals helped some. I am at a slippery track so the Hals don't help much without traction. They WILL help you though. I would just add the fronts and see where that puts you.
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? [quote]Originally posted by ONYXSS:
<strong>
Can the front Hals along with the drag springs be tightened up enough to give good handling on the street?
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, they can. they are meant to be drag/road race shocks and have 12 different settings. Setting 6 or 7 seem to work best for me on the street, as far as just being comfortable while I drive.
Steve
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Can the front Hals along with the drag springs be tightened up enough to give good handling on the street?
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, they can. they are meant to be drag/road race shocks and have 12 different settings. Setting 6 or 7 seem to work best for me on the street, as far as just being comfortable while I drive.
Steve
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? 100% stock... well at least up till now. I now have a 12bolt guess it's 99% stock now <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? 1.58 60' on a completely stock suspension in a vig3200 convertered car with NOS. but as the rest of the people have said, it will make an improvement if not for lowering, but for consistency.
Chris
Chris
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? I went 11.26 on a 1.588
all stock suspension, including front sway bar. On the 10 bolt and ET streets <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
but be damned if i can't get that low again with all aftermarket pieces <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/frown.gif" border="0">
all stock suspension, including front sway bar. On the 10 bolt and ET streets <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
but be damned if i can't get that low again with all aftermarket pieces <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/frown.gif" border="0">
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Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? All factory stock suspention here. Best 60ft so far is 1.48
http://66.78.6.50/~anti-ric/video/101901/TA2Slow01.mpg
http://66.78.6.50/~anti-ric/video/101901/TA2Slow01.mpg
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Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? I guess I'm not gonna help you a whole lot but I'm right at that point. Had I not pulled the car out of first on the launch a week ago I probably would be right under the 11.99 mark.
Anyways, 12.079 on stock suspension. Not even subframes yet. My car is a little on the light side though (3340 raceweight).
Anyways, 12.079 on stock suspension. Not even subframes yet. My car is a little on the light side though (3340 raceweight).
Re: 11.99 or under and using stock suspension ?? 11.117 at 128.65 mph
Completely stock suspension and crappy 60'(1.745)
I just kind plow my way to a low 11.
Actaully, Ill have some good ETs soon. Finanlly found a good clutch.
Completely stock suspension and crappy 60'(1.745)
I just kind plow my way to a low 11.
Actaully, Ill have some good ETs soon. Finanlly found a good clutch.