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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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Hey guys, just looking for some input. My car is a 2000 z28 camaro auto 323s

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Last run on street tires was 13.2 @ 106

What do you think I would run with a 3200 stall and drag radials?

The reason I ask is because I got almost all the parts for a cam swap but if i can achieve mid 12s without touching the motor I might not cam my engine..
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:33 AM
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Mid 12's seems very reasonable to me
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Nice! That's pretty quick.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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That should easily run 12s.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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there have been bone stock M6 & A4 cars that have gone 12's on stock tires down to the stock air filter , most go low to mid 13's. Your mods should go mid 12's in decent air , add a stall like your thinking low 12's ( closer to 4k would be better and leave room to work well with a cam later).

My stalled A4 car is a pretty direct comparison for what your looking to do.

stock internals , ls6 intake, kooks lt's , magnaflow catback with ory , 80 mm TB , slp lid and lower sheet metal airbox , underdrive pulley , ac delete , 3600 vigilante , 373's , qa1's , sfc's , lower control arms on MT et streets , car went 12.1 @112 noticeably missing up top , ended up being a weak fuel pump , need to get car back to the track lol sidenote paid $3200 with all mods in place 4 years ago , theres advantages to bought not built lol

Where do you race ? location is huge in getting good results ( temps and altitude)
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by murphinator
there have been bone stock M6 & A4 cars that have gone 12's on stock tires down to the stock air filter , most go low to mid 13's. Your mods should go mid 12's in decent air , add a stall like your thinking low 12's ( closer to 4k would be better and leave room to work well with a cam later). My stalled A4 car is a pretty direct comparison for what your looking to do. stock internals , ls6 intake, kooks lt's , magnaflow catback with ory , 80 mm TB , slp lid and lower sheet metal airbox , underdrive pulley , ac delete , 3600 vigilante , 373's , qa1's , sfc's , lower control arms on MT et streets , car went 12.1 @112 noticeably missing up top , ended up being a weak fuel pump , need to get car back to the track lol sidenote paid $3200 with all mods in place 4 years ago , theres advantages to bought not built lol Where do you race ? location is huge in getting good results ( temps and altitude)

Thanks for the info, last time I raced DA was around 2000ft wen I ran a 13.2. The humidity was around 80% and temp was high 80s. I'm gunna wait until it's cooler out before I hit the track again. By then I should have my 3200 stall converter in and find out my results.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Transambrandon
Thanks for the info, last time I raced DA was around 2000ft wen I ran a 13.2. The humidity was around 80% and temp was high 80s. I'm gunna wait until it's cooler out before I hit the track again. By then I should have my 3200 stall converter in and find out my results.
that da isn't good by northeast standards but pretty normal for many other areas , if you can run on a cool high barometric pressure day even low 60's youll be flirtin with cracking 12's , 30's or 40's would be even better lol but in any case as it gets cooler and higher pressure you WILL make more power which will only provide quicker et's if you can hook up that extra power on the likely colder slipperier track . The DR's you mentioned getting.. MT ET streets and hoosier qtp's work very well on an a4 car

what were your 60 foot times??

your 106 trap in that da will likely pick up by at least 2mph in good air , tires are all you should need to get well into the 12's in good air , stall will get you closer to low 12's IMO

maybe consider pulling your front sway bar for the track also.
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 07:17 AM
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I just got toyo proxes TQ drag radials which supposedly grip better than the nitto 555R, we will see.

As far as 60ft , 2.1x is my average. I couldn't get below that with these tires. (Nexen n3000 summer tires)
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With just the TQ's you have at least a 12.9 as it sits
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Transambrandon
The reason I ask is because I got almost all the parts for a cam swap but if i can achieve mid 12s without touching the motor I might not cam my engine..
You could probably get 12s as is but I say cam it anyways. The Hotcam was the best thing I did to my LT1, love the extra power and idle.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 08:34 AM
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Well I got the TQ converter being installed today! So I should be get into the 12s now! im doing to much DD recently to justify putting on my drag radials. I will be driving much less in December so I will be putting them on sometime later this year.

As for camming the engine. It's a go for now! Still need some springs and a oil pump but those parts will be ordered soon enough. I'd like to hit 11s with the motor cammed.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Transambrandon
Well I got the TQ converter being installed today! So I should be get into the 12s now! im doing to much DD recently to justify putting on my drag radials. I will be driving much less in December so I will be putting them on sometime later this year.

As for camming the engine. It's a go for now! Still need some springs and a oil pump but those parts will be ordered soon enough. I'd like to hit 11s with the motor cammed.
11's cam only is absolutely attainable. The car will be a hell of a lot more fun with that converter as well! Let us know the results!
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Transambrandon
Well I got the TQ converter being installed today! So I should be get into the 12s now! im doing to much DD recently to justify putting on my drag radials. I will be driving much less in December so I will be putting them on sometime later this year.
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just hop on your local craigs list and buy a cheap pair of stock wheels to mount your dr's on - should be able to find a pair of stock 4th gen wheels for under $100

with the stall traction will be considerably worse your going to want those toyos ready to go , you will see what I mean when you take it for a ride with the stall - its night and day you will love it !
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Old Oct 8, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by murphinator
just hop on your local craigs list and buy a cheap pair of stock wheels to mount your dr's on - should be able to find a pair of stock 4th gen wheels for under $100 with the stall traction will be considerably worse your going to want those toyos ready to go , you will see what I mean when you take it for a ride with the stall - its night and day you will love it !
My cars still at the shop so I still haven't drove it. What is so night and day about it?
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Originally Posted by Transambrandon
My cars still at the shop so I still haven't drove it. What is so night and day about it?
When you get on it, she'll actually wanna GO now!
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Originally Posted by LoganTHMotorsports
When you get on it, she'll actually wanna GO now!
Haha well I'm really gunna need some sticky tires then. It breaks lose in first and second as is.
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Originally Posted by Transambrandon
My cars still at the shop so I still haven't drove it. What is so night and day about it?
it will immediately be right in the powerband and stay in it with a stall convertor vs stock convertor , the higher the stall the more pronounced but even if you went conservative like the 3200 you mentioned in your first post it will turn into a tire frying machine - it will feel like you added 100 hp seat of the pants when you mash it. Its the best bang for the buck short of spray you can get for an ls1
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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Bumping up this thread. The converter is in and drag radials on. I got one run at the track the other day. I turned 12.9 at 107. My 60ft was 1.91. Previously my best was 13.2 on street tires and no stall.
I didn't run the car as hard as possible so I'm heading back in January to try and get to mid 12s. Also racing for the first time with a new set up doesn't help when you only get one chance to race. Any tips to help launch with drag radials and a 3200 stall will be appreciated!

Thx
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Run the drag radials at 18psi , do a long smokey burn out, stall it up to about 1300 rpms and let it rip !

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Good job op! Do as stated above and you'll see even better times!
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