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Old 06-19-2004, 12:20 PM
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Default MIR: June 19, 2004 Shakedown runs - (10.2 - 10.4) 2300' DA

We went to the track tonight and were greeted with some hot humid conditions. Tonight the Temps were in the low 80s, Humidity 95%+ and the air pressure was a scant 29.8x. I think the DA was close to 2200-2300. We made 3 passes, each had 60s in the 1.45-1.48 range. Once again we ran into fuel problems. Switching to the 3" exhaust and new fuel system left the car 12.2:1 all motor and on the bottle the air-fuel ratio was just all over the place. We pulled a couple of plugs and they are getting hot and starting to melt so I know its very lean. A/F was in the 13.5-15.5:1 range which is way to lean. I am not sure if I should pull some timing, richen the car up, turn the BAP up some more(40%), or dump some hi-po fuel. The car wanted to spin hard out of the hole but seemed to 60' pretty well, we were leaving at 6500 spraying out of the hole. Here's the rundowns....
Round 1:
10.3x @ 131(1.48 60')
Round 2: Raced a local guy who had been wanting to line up for months
10.40 @ 133(1.47 60') Shorting shifting got loose @ 1/8 and 1000'
Round 3:
10.2x @ 133(1.46 60') Got loose again at the 1/8 and 1000'
Do I need to go to a direct port kit to make my fuel ratio more consistent? I am gonna pull the plugs and see whats going on inside....
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very nice!!!
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good times Phil!
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What would cause the A/F to be jumping around? Too much timing? Too big plug gap?
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what says it jumping around? in car wwideband? is it known for consitant and accurate readings?

did the car feel liek it was surging any (FPSS cutting on/off) shoot me apm sometime
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Hey phill your lucky I did not school you on the way home friday night
No just playing I was in the blue trans am I followed you back to waldorf, I live right next to you in lancaster, hey that is one sweet car man I thought for sure you brought it down on a trailer I cant beleave that thing is running on the street I especialy liked it when you cracked down on it on the way home (good thing that cop was bussy) Not that he could have caught you

sweet car man
let me know if you want to get schooled one day (in drinking)

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LOL. I saw your temp tags, my passenger was trying to get me to lay the smack down but I had to resist. Trailer...Trailer....I drive my race car. If you need any work done let me know...
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LOL. I saw your temp tags, my passenger was trying to get me to lay the smack down but I had to resist. Trailer...Trailer....I drive my race car. If you need any work done let me know...
Phillip
Yeah my girlfriend wanted me to race you (she's a blond) I told her there is no freaking way he's running 10's low tens if he wants, she said thats not that big of a deal thats only 3 seconds slower then I ran, she has no idea

I just picked the car up a few weeks ago, could not pass it up 98 with only 27K miles garage kept for $12,000 (and no mods done) Actually Ive been looking for somone that can mod this thing Im pretty good with older carb cars but this LS1 is blowing my mind, you must really know your **** man!! I give you much respect.

This friday Im ordering 3.73's and I guess the stupid hpp programer so I can change the gear settings in the computer, me and my dad will put them in probly the following weekend along with air lid and crap like that.

future mods im going to need help with are converter TCI with a 3800 stall
jet hot long tubes, and a decent cam I would like it to bump like yours but Im probly not ready for a bump stick of that size , whats the lift on that thing? my goal for now is low 12's any pointers on what to get would be great! Im not to knowlegeable with ls1's

Do you know how to use ls1 edit? this is my main concern, I relize I need to get a laptop and the program but dont even want to attempt adjustments.

Let me know what you can do as far as
headers
converter
cam
LS1 edit
heads (not sure wich ones)
Name your price I have no problum paying somone as long as they know what there doing and you do, plus your right around the corner , I really did not want to go to f-body central cause I get lost every time I go to baltimore probly cause every time I do im

I still have alot of mods to buy so Im not in a hurry, if you can do these mods let me know and Ill contact you when Im ready and hopefully we can set somthing up.

BTW... how in the hell are you getting by emisions????????

sorry about long *** post, Most of my friends have supras and imports so talking to them about it is like talking to my girl friend (pointless)

thanks
Scott

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Scott,
Yeah, I'll hook you up. I can do everything from Build shortblocks to Custom Fab. I have all of the tools + a nice tig welder. Let me know what you need....Did you see my race against the 03 Cobra? Can you say 5 cars by the 330' mark. It was pitiful. We're changing my setup to run a big shot of nitrous...considering its gone 135mph on a 100 shot, a 300 shot is gonna be insane.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Scott,
Yeah, I'll hook you up. I can do everything from Build shortblocks to Custom Fab. I have all of the tools + a nice tig welder. Let me know what you need....Did you see my race against the 03 Cobra? Can you say 5 cars by the 330' mark. It was pitiful. We're changing my setup to run a big shot of nitrous...considering its gone 135mph on a 100 shot, a 300 shot is gonna be insane.
Phillip
Damn right! the stang was bitch smacked then raped and thrown in a ditch
and a 300 shot? out the hole? christ man you better Fab you some wheelie bars, I hope im there to see that pass sh*t you should pull a low 9's !

hey send me your phone, cell, or email and Ill get in touch with you when I have somthing I need done (scottyballs@comcast.net), Im sure Ill see you down the track also, I normally work 3-11pm M-F so when ever Im off on Friday Im there, and let me know when your going to shoot a 300 shot to her *** ill take off to see that !

Thanks,
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:55 PM
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I just found the problem with my fuel system that was causing teh car to run really lean. All motor the car would run 12.25-12.5:1 and as soon as I sprayed it woudl go to 15.5:1. Found that the fuel line coming off the solenoid was really loose and fuel was shooting on to the intake manifold and hoodliner. The car should fly with the fuel system fixed....
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Great times Phillip.

Good luck to ya.

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**** phill you almost put a whole new meaning to ghost flames
glad you fixed that could have been nasty....

So I guess what your saying is you where pretty much kinda running a dry shot of N

hey how do you know what your compresion is when you spray it?

dose auto tap or other logging programs tell you that kinda stuff too?

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I went over the whole system last night and found that all of the an fittings except the ones on the nozzles were either loose or not tight enough to seal them. To run a dry shot you need to place the nozzles infront of the MAF so the computer can add for the added airflow. This friday should be pretty nuts....We're shooting for high 130s in the traps and low 1.4 60's
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Stout.

When we played with dry nitrous several years ago we took care to

a) not have the dry nozzles spray right onto the MAF wires

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b) made sure that we had the dry nozzle plumbed in where it would provide maximum value, too far away and it took too long to have maximum effect.

How much timing are you running?
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25-26 degrees of timing, 31 all motor
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What gas?




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