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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 07:19 AM
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Hi fellas I'm getting to the end maximizing my N/A setup and just trying to explore a few different things that might help with performance. Right now I'm running a Mamo ported 102 on my ls1. Milled TEA 2.5 ls6 heads, 234/242 111+2 cam full bolt on's.

Right now I am still dialing in the shift points and adding timing to the setup with the new to this year heads/cam. Right now Shifting to 7250 is no problem and car is pulling hard up to it. Can shift a little higher if needed. Shifting at 7250 puts my extensions back down to 6100rpm's.

If I switch to the msd it will be ported by Mamo or TEA.

Any ideas or opinions are welcome
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...o-fast102.html

Here's a good thread on the Msd vs Fast 102
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IMO for the the time and money involved it's not worth it
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IMO for the the time and money involved it's not worth it
I could sell my Mamo Fast for a good chunk of money and I already have 102tb, rails etc. Msd "should" bolt right on. I've had the Fast off so many times literally could switch it in an hr. Just need to know it will make the car faster
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Gotcha. Weather it will make the car any faster or not is a good question. Just taking an educated guess, based on your build, I'd say it would be damn near a wash between the two. Ill be curious to hear what others think
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It really depends on your goals. If you want to push the HP higher into RPM, the MSD makes sense. Up to 6400 rpm, fast was better. Lines crossed at 6400. Above that was all MSD.

So let's say you want to start shifting at 7500.... in that case do MSD. You'll make higher average power and it'll pull hard all the way out that far. You probably want a cam with a 46-49 IVC vs the more common 42-45 to match up well with the shorter runners.

If you're shifting at 7200 and really aren't likely to change that, probably not worth the effort.

Hope that helps!

Edit - FWIW, I'm thinking to put a 105 throttle on and port match the throat. If you're already in for a MSD, might consider that too
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It really depends on your goals. If you want to push the HP higher into RPM, the MSD makes sense. Up to 6400 rpm, fast was better. Lines crossed at 6400. Above that was all MSD.

So let's say you want to start shifting at 7500.... in that case do MSD. You'll make higher average power and it'll pull hard all the way out that far. You probably want a cam with a 46-49 IVC vs the more common 42-45 to match up well with the shorter runners.

If you're shifting at 7200 and really aren't likely to change that, probably not worth the effort.

Hope that helps!

Edit - FWIW, I'm thinking to put a 105 throttle on and port match the throat. If you're already in for a MSD, might consider that too
When I was having trans issues earlier this year it hit the 7500 limiter a few times. Power really falls off approx 7300. I guess I should be happy the setup is pulling that far as it is. I think your right tho to really take advantage of the intake it would probably be best to go with a little "bigger" cam. Then while I'm in there might as well add dome pistons

Gonna dial up the timing Wednesday night and see how far I can push this current setup
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Not to Hijack but I'm in the same boat , I'm switching to a Cam Motion LLSR cam and plan on selling my Mamofied Fast 102 and go to a Mamofied MSD to support the higher Rpm's of the solid roller cam , I'll be shifting mine 7500+ , just really didn't wanna deal with trying to get air to an open 4150 TB on a single plain intake
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Originally Posted by 1nastyss
Not to Hijack but I'm in the same boat , I'm switching to a Cam Motion LLSR cam and plan on selling my Mamofied Fast 102 and go to a Mamofied MSD to support the higher Rpm's of the solid roller cam , I'll be shifting mine 7500+ , just really didn't wanna deal with trying to get air to an open 4150 TB on a single plain intake
In that case, it probably makes sense for you. Decided on cam specs yet?
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Originally Posted by 1nastyss
Not to Hijack but I'm in the same boat , I'm switching to a Cam Motion LLSR cam and plan on selling my Mamofied Fast 102 and go to a Mamofied MSD to support the higher Rpm's of the solid roller cam , I'll be shifting mine 7500+ , just really didn't wanna deal with trying to get air to an open 4150 TB on a single plain intake
Can you put an elbow on a single plane and still close the hood?
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