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Old 09-09-2002, 05:26 PM
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I second this motion!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by GeorgeC:
<strong>I'm guessing Terry got a copy of Photoshop! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>I’m going to try to take the car out to Carlsbad Saturday, but I’m having some tranny shifting / too big of a stall type problems I need to work through before I start to compete with George et. al.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Terry, Did you make it out?
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Terry I tell everyone whats being done to my car,there's no secrets here buddy.

Knock me if u wish,Its all clean fun.
Good luck with the 396 thats been in your car for 2 months <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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Old 09-09-2002, 06:25 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Terry I tell everyone whats being done to my car,there's no secrets here buddy.

Knock me if u wish,Its all clean fun.
Good luck with the 396 thats been in your car for 2 months
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">More like 5 days. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> You never post pictures of your car and your dyno numbers and track times never add up. Sounds sneaky to me? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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No I dont post pics
I post VIDIEOS OF MY CAR RACING.
I know you've seen the runs,dont play stupid

But u tell me what a 3590lb/430RWHP H/C
car should run in the 1/4 Terry...

Mines gone a best of 11.17@120.68.....
Sounds about right to me?

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Old 09-09-2002, 06:59 PM
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With out the pics we can't see how gutted it is, or what parts you're running, etc. And its not like you run 11.17 consistently either you know.
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Reckless "I saw your motor/pistons on ebay...tellme didn't let them go for that price?"

I sure hope so, I bought them!

I am going down to Cali this weekend to pick them up.

See you on the 13th Terry!

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Thats true Terry ,Most of the time it runs 11.30@119 at at race weight of 3520lbs...

I mightve gotten alittle bit ahead of myself in believing I could run 10's at this weight,no one has done it to date....

I would say it;ll be 3500 on the dot come Oct
So truthfully Terry,what should a 430RWHP setup run at 3500lbs in MINUS 500 ft of air?

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JS I thought you dynoed 448RWHP with the stock rear and 3.73's. Did you lose 18RWHP going from this to the 12 bolt with 4.11s?
I am curious because I went from a 3.73 ten bolt to a 4.11 geared 12 bolt. I didnt do back to back dyno comparos so I am interested if that is what you saw.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tom the roofer:
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You can tell me how my new 7.5" backspacing looks on my car from behind as we rip down the track <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> lol
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Been there, done that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I look forward to doing it again at cecil, as I like watching 9 & 10 second passes up close. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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yes I can ditto that. I'll never forget Tom running mid 10's on the 100 shot and 11.1 all motor that weekend. It was a great weekend for all of us. I ran 11.4@124.29mph that day hehehe. His car was booking and looked savage off the line!
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Old 09-10-2002, 10:26 AM
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Chris I redynoed the car threw a 12-bolt/4.10's on my ET drags with my PS hooked back up.
Results were 431.2/396.2RWTQ..

I dont know where u got the 448 number?
My BEST dyno number was 441/400 threw a 10-bolt/3.73 and no PS belt/Cutout...

I lost 9.8RWHP/3.8RWTQ from the gears/12-bolt/PS back on the car.
I've been racing the car with PS HOOKED UP for a while..

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Old 09-10-2002, 10:33 AM
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Jeez JS.

Chicago's fastest HCI, A4, gear, full exhaust car has run 11.32@119.75mph at RT66, at 1000 DA. ARE 226/112 cam, TP4400, 4.10's and 16" ET Streets... Weight reduction is Hawker battery, and no front swaybar. Weight guesstimation (car has a 12 bolt) is 3600.

Car has LS1 heads too.

Seems to me your car is not dialed in because with your mods at 3500 raceweight you should run 11.0-11.2 right now. With those heads I'd think you'd run 120-121mph right now.

I had the superstroker turd but in my case it was bad tuning and the car was running at 15:1 AF and that's why the car would not MPH.

I don't like Terry's internet persona because he tried to hard to get a rise out of folks, and he'll go after everyone irrespective of how they comport themselves on the boards. But he has changed a buttload of stuff and his car is fast.
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Oh thats right I got you mixed up with Brents Z-06 numbers I think.
Thanks for the info on the gear swap loss.
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I agree John,Terry has changed ALOT of stuff to get his car to run and it sure does fly,no doubt about it..But I would expect u (John) of all people to give me the same chance at dialing my car in too?

I've had a VIG in my car the WHOLE time except for the brief moment that I tried a UT4600 which was WAY too loose for even me.I never even ran the car with it because it was insane to even drive the car...

1st off John,I'm only flashing to 4100,2nd the car is shifting at 6800 but dropping back to 5100 which is HORRIBLE!!!On the 2nd shift its the same thing,6700 upshift and back to 5200....

I've talked to more than a few drag racers here in PA and they all told me the same thing,1200rpm drop on the gear change is the most I wanna see for a setup like mine...

Julio even commented on my drop in RPM and he said,TRY THE TP4500....

Raughammer kept telling me the VIG wouldnt 60ft with a YANK and he was right,I have had only (2)SUB 1.4X's outta the VIG.Most of my 60ft's have been right around 1.55/1.57.PatrickG also emailed me and said,"Get a TP4500 in the car."Patrick also went on to say it will upshift no lower than 5600 and that it will produce more HP/TQ,a better 60ft/MPH than my VIG....

I looked at an old unlocked dyno sheet of my VIG,
I'm losing 31RW.My TP4500 lost 18RW.IMO thats a pretty big loss.....

Truthfully John, I agree with u,My 3500lb car should be running consistant 11.30@120 in 1000ft DA's,bottem line it hasnt.I have a hunch I know whats wrong but until I actually check it next week I wont know for sure.

One change at a time is the way I'm gonna handle the setup now John.I have the susp. setup perfect and the trans is working great.I'm gonna try the Yank next week and then re-run the car.Then I will check what I think is wrong with the car and re-run it again.

I'll get it corrected John....
That u can count on <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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I think based on this local car I referenced you should go 11.15-11.25 since he is going 11.3 with less heads, less cam, and mail order tuning. I will tell you this local guy went a little faster once he lowered his shift points a little bit.

Terry's not 3500-3600 raceweight, he's more like 3200 raceweight so right off that the bat he's got 3 tenths lower et in the can...

I thought Yank is restalling your converter.
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We ALL told you to get rid of the vig hehehe.
Looking forward to hearing how the converter change works.
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Okay John I'll give that..
I should be right at 11.15/11.25 consistantly..
Hopefully I'll get there once my TP4500 gets here and I check what I think is the problem..

Chris your right,I shouldve kept my Yank
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Old 09-10-2002, 03:33 PM
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As soon as I move my LS6 cores I'll rebuild the tranny and show you guys what 496rwhp can do. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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how much for the cores? im working my way up to heads and cam status



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