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Old 07-22-2004, 10:59 PM
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Default Picked up 2/10ths, 2mph w/cam, LT's, ORY, cutuots and TB!

Went to the track last night and only picked up 2 mph and 2 tenths after adding a 230/234 cam, QTP longtubes, 3" Y-pipe with DUAL cutouts and a ported TB. WTF?

Last nights runs: Average
60 ft- 2.06 2.10 2.07 2.06 2.07
330 ft- 5.64 5.69 5.64 5.58 5.64
574 ft- 7.97 8.01 7.95 7.90 7.96
1/8- 8.49 8.52 8.46 8.41 8.47
MPH- 86.4 87.6 87.7 87.1 87.2

Previous runs: Average
60 ft- 2.09 2.13 2.19 2.02 2.22 2.21 2.15
330 ft- 5.76 5.79 5.87 5.65 5.93 5.76 5.79
574 ft- 8.14 8.16 8.24 8.01 8.31 8.10 8.16
1/8- 8.67 8.69 8.77 8.53 8.84 8.62 8.69
MPH- 84.9 85.4 85.2 85.8 85.2 86.4 85.5

To say the least I am very disappointed although I still need to install my LS6 intake and have it tuned with LS1 Edit.
-I think the intake will do a lot since I have all exhaust mods except for the TB.
-I'm running very rich right now so cleaning up the a/f should help too.
-This is shifting at around 6k rpm with no shift light vs. a 6600 shift point WITH a shift light.
-I passed the traps at about 5500rpm in third. Will the raised shift point have me pasing the traps closer to redline?
-I'm going to do a few runs with the cutouts closed and halfway open to see if that changes things. I know I am losing lowend torque with them fully open but thats only at low rpm so I'm not sure how much they're effecting the run.
-I will be going to 16" rims with nittos because I think the Fikse 17x11 are really hurting me off the line with 3.42's. The stock runs were on 16's with street tires, lid and a loudmouth.
-I'm gonna have to learn to brake during a burnout cause the tires aren't getting hot at all. I should be pulling at least a 1.8 60ft if not 1.7 on 315 DR's.

Any comments are appreciated.

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Old 07-22-2004, 11:29 PM
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Hmmm.. I picked up 2 tenths & 2 mph just fixin' an o2 sensor & resetting the computer w/ just bolt ons & ran 8.0 @ 1/8.

good luck w/ it.

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Old 07-23-2004, 03:10 AM
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If you havn't tuned it don't worry about it. You need the tune to fix the A/F ratio and up your redline/shift points to make use of the higher powerband of the cam.
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Your combo is totally mismatched at the moment. I am surprised you went 2 tenths faster

shifting too early with no shiftlight
tall gear (sounds like you are running 3.42s)
NO tuning
NO LS6 intake

Get an LS6 intake and tuning
shiftlight with a 6300rpm pill
4.11 gears

I bet you'll go 6 tenths faster easily!
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Chris, thanks for the inspiration. I need it.
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hehe I wasn't trying to be negative You have a TON of improvment to be made with minor changes
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yup. you def weren't firing with both barrels, don't worry about it. chris said most of what i would point out.

-shift points WAY to low. I don't see chris' estimation of 6300 nearly high enough thought. a cam like that needs 6700-6800 shift points from my experience.
-you were on 16" rims before. 17" rims will hurt MPH in comparison
-Tuning..if you are fat as hell in the tuning that will hurt alot, who knows where timing is as well, cam will want more timing. and ls6 intake will of course help..stock intake is a HUGE bottleneck.
-i agree car could prolly use some gear.
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Originally Posted by SilverGhost
yup. you def weren't firing with both barrels, don't worry about it. chris said most of what i would point out.

-shift points WAY to low. I don't see chris' estimation of 6300 nearly high enough thought. a cam like that needs 6700-6800 shift points from my experience.
I mentioned 6300 where he has stock bottom end. (high revs might be ugly)

With a 6300rpm pill he would probably react and pull the shifter by ~6500rpm especially in the lower gears.

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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
I mentioned 6300 where he has stock bottom end. (high revs might be ugly)

With a 6300rpm pill he would probably react and pull the shifter by ~6500rpm especially in the lower gears.

I agree with that, my first time out to the track watching the shift light I was about 200rpm past the shift light before I reacted. YOU LEARN QUICK THOUGHT!

By the end of the day my main man Mark ran up to the driver side window, and yells, "YOU'RE GOD DAMN KILLING ME WITH THE SHORT SHIFTING!!!"

SStolen, you are deffinately missing some horespower with your setup. With that cam and the rest of your mods you should be trapping at least in the 92mph range. LS6 Manifold, Tune, 4.11's, and a decent tire and you'll be running 7.5's.
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I can't afford a 12-bolt so I am just going to add 4.10's to the stock 10-bolt and not run at the track. I'm gonna throw the gears in and only run from a roll on the street. I have the gears, I am just waiting to install them until after I install the intake and tuning. I had stock times so I wanted cam and headers times, then after intake times, then after tuning times. I'll just add 2 tenths to whatever my best time is tuned to make up for the stock gearing. Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
Your combo is totally mismatched at the moment. I am surprised you went 2 tenths faster

shifting too early with no shiftlight
tall gear (sounds like you are running 3.42s)
NO tuning
NO LS6 intake

Get an LS6 intake and tuning
shiftlight with a 6300rpm pill
4.11 gears

I bet you'll go 6 tenths faster easily!
I am with Chris.

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