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Old 12-22-2002, 09:41 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CONFUZED:
<strong>brooke and raughhammer run 11.70s back 2yrs ago.people cried saying its b.s.,brooke runs 11.2s,again it was cried b.s.,mike hoffpauir runs 11.2s with cam only at 3500lbs,its looked at with doubt(by certain people),.killer air,some cars have stronger mid-range,some cars pull harder up top.some people shift better than others.some cars just work better than others.about a 1-1/2yrs ago i made up alittle post about some dude running 11.1xs or 11.0xs,at like 3300lbs,with 39x rwhp.the "SMART" guys said "NO WAY",with that weight ,that little hp.well guess what?seems like a few people have run that fast or faster n/a with 400 or less rwhp.with mid 1.4x 60fts.im not saying he DID do it,im not saying he DIDNT.but 3400lbs with 420rwhp.the numbers are very possible.it seems when person X goes faster than person Y,and person Y feels hes done everything,theres always <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> to be thrown out.well <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> ,theres always someone who can do it better and faster than others.deal with it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL! AMEN BROTHER!! <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CONFUZED:
<strong>brooke and raughhammer run 11.70s back 2yrs ago.people cried saying its b.s.,brooke runs 11.2s,again it was cried b.s.,mike hoffpauir runs 11.2s with cam only at 3500lbs,its looked at with doubt(by certain people),.killer air,some cars have stronger mid-range,some cars pull harder up top.some people shift better than others.some cars just work better than others.about a 1-1/2yrs ago i made up alittle post about some dude running 11.1xs or 11.0xs,at like 3300lbs,with 39x rwhp.the "SMART" guys said "NO WAY",with that weight ,that little hp.well guess what?seems like a few people have run that fast or faster n/a with 400 or less rwhp.with mid 1.4x 60fts.im not saying he DID do it,im not saying he DIDNT.but 3400lbs with 420rwhp.the numbers are very possible.it seems when person X goes faster than person Y,and person Y feels hes done everything,theres always <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> to be thrown out.well <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> ,theres always someone who can do it better and faster than others.deal with it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I heard that. I just ran a 10.79 @ 123 in my internally-stock LS1 N/A with a 3300-lb. raceweight. Pretty cool, huh? I guess I just got a freak from the factory!! I don't want to see any BS flags either, because anyone who would raise one should just learn to deal with the fact that I ran the time and you didn't. No matter how fast you think you are, I promise you there's someone out there that is faster, so get on with your life. Just believe EVERYONE, even people you know nothing about, until you have good reason not to, because EVERYONE out there is sooooo trustworthy.

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FYI, I do not necessarily disbelieve this character's claim, but I do not necessarily believe it either. He probably doesn't care who believes him and who doesn't, and I don't care whether or not he cares who believes him and who doesn't, but I thought it very necessary to point out that there is nothing wrong with doubting anything anyone says until they've proven themselves trustworthy to you. Going around believing EVERYTHING you hear/read just because "anything's possible" is not optimism, it's stupidity.

The pessimist says the glass is half-empty. Great. The optimist says it's half-full. Excellent. The smart one takes the time to analyze the situation and think it through to a logical conclusion: Two halves make one whole, therefore the glass is both half-empty and half-full, i.e. half of the glass contains water, whereas the other half of it does not. This isn't hard, folks.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Joe Kizzire:
<strong>[QUOTE]Originally posted by VINCE:
[qb]I've got to agree with Vince on this one.... something ain't right!!! <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It happened. He did it. Accept it.

The only thing that "ain't right" is people thinking that records can't be broken or that just because it hasn't been done yet that it can't be done. That has to be the most closed minded point of view ever.

Raceweight has been accurately calculated to 3396 lbs.

I understand the skeptic's point of view, as I found it hard to believe myself and I know firsthand what is done to the car.

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Somebody tell the man to show up at Steele on Jan. 5.... I'd really like to get a look at his car when it runs a 10.76 @ 125 mph... Better than that I'd like to see him cut a 1.46 60ft with 4.10 gears naturally aspirated...

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Was the car scaled or did u just average this number by assuming its 3396?

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Joe Kizzire:
<strong>Somebody tell the man to show up at Steele on Jan. 5.... I'd really like to get a look at his car when it runs a 10.76 @ 125 mph... Better than that I'd like to see him cut a 1.46 60ft with 4.10 gears naturally aspirated...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can pretty much say steele is a bit on the generous side for mph (cant say for ET though). I ran there 3 weeks ago with my C5 that dynod 325 at the rear with an unlocked vig 3000 and I trapped 114 with 3/4 tank of gas, stock wheels (bfgs rear), my 240lb rear and extra junk in the car - thats pretty good for a C5 coupe with a vig and 325rwhp. I would have guessed 112 max in good weather.

Funny thing was my 1/8 mile ET was pretty close, I run 7.80s here at a little above sea level, with the DA at -1000 I was running 7.70s which makes sense. But my 1/8 mile mph in one lane was 2 mph different then the other (this car is pretty consistant) so something is up. I have only been there twice (last time was long time ago) so I cant say for sure..

Been doing this for a 25 years so it isnt my first time down a dragstip and it certainly isnt the fist time mph/ET clocks were different from track to track..

Main thing is it ran what it ran, you have the slips and thats that. Since I'm not in the race to make any 'records' I dont doubt the car ran that at Steele one bit. If steele is a 'fast' track that doesnt stop anyone else from going there and running quicker if they think its not right - nice passes <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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I am surprised this is still going on.. I thru up the BS flag because I watched him run at the TR Shootout. It was the raceweight and gears that really bothered me. Now under 3400lbs is more like it.. That is why I asked him to find out what his raceweight really was..
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>I am surprised this is still going on.. I thru up the BS flag because I watched him run at the TR Shootout. It was the raceweight and gears that really bothered me. Now under 3400lbs is more like it.. That is why I asked him to find out what his raceweight really was..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didnt even notice the date on the first post <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I was just surprised a bit since everyone local here talks about steele as being a 'fast' track - thats why I drove 200 miles to go there - well that and there are no other 1/4 mile tracks around open in the winter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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To quote Rageman:
The pessimist says the glass is half-empty. Great. The optimist says it's half-full. Excellent. The smart one takes the time to analyze the situation and think it through to a logical conclusion: Two halves make one whole, therefore the glass is both half-empty and half-full, i.e. half of the glass contains water, whereas the other half of it does not. This isn't hard, folks.

Actually, the logical conclusion is that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Spindoctor:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Joe Kizzire:
<strong>[QUOTE]Originally posted by VINCE:
[qb]I've got to agree with Vince on this one.... something ain't right!!! <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It happened. He did it. Accept it.

The only thing that "ain't right" is people thinking that records can't be broken or that just because it hasn't been done yet that it can't be done. That has to be the most closed minded point of view ever.

Raceweight has been accurately calculated to 3396 lbs.

I understand the skeptic's point of view, as I found it hard to believe myself and I know firsthand what is done to the car.

It happened! He did it! Accept it! <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Disclaimer: the following statement does not imply that I disbelieve the claim.

I could get a lot of locals to get on this board and say I ran a 10.79 @ 123 w/ an "accurately calculated" raceweight of 3300 lbs. too. Or to say that I DON'T have a stock LS6 motor in the car.

There may always be someone faster than you, but that doesn't make it wrong to try and be faster.

FWIW, this claim doesn't mean much to me at this point since I don't have heads/cam...yet.

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If Joe Kizzire doubts something today, it will become "normal" a year from now. So, I guess heads/cam 6-speeds running 10s will be very common a year from now.

Joe just has a hard time expressing things <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

BTW, I was the first M6 owner to run 11s consistently on motor, and on drag radials. That was with 400 rwhp and 3600 lbs. Mr Kizzire said it was impossible back then ('99) too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>If Joe Kizzire doubts something today, it will become "normal" a year from now. So, I guess heads/cam 6-speeds running 10s will be very common a year from now.

Joe just has a hard time expressing things <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

BTW, I was the first M6 owner to run 11s consistently on motor, and on drag radials. That was with 400 rwhp and 3600 lbs. Mr Kizzire said it was impossible back then ('99) too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tony it is amazing how you trole in on a thread and before you're through posting you blow your on horn.... Why is it always about you????

By the way Tony where's your car??? Customer service ain't what it used to be at MTI????

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I heard that. I just ran a 10.79 @ 123 in my internally-stock LS1 N/A with a 3300-lb. raceweight. Pretty cool, huh? I guess I just got a freak from the factory!! I don't want to see any BS flags either, because anyone who would raise one should just learn to deal with the fact that I ran the time and you didn't. No matter how fast you think you are, I promise you there's someone out there that is faster, so get on with your life. Just believe EVERYONE, even people you know nothing about, until you have good reason not to, because EVERYONE out there is sooooo trustworthy.

[insert shift to the real world here]

FYI, I do not necessarily disbelieve this character's claim, but I do not necessarily believe it either. He probably doesn't care who believes him and who doesn't, and I don't care whether or not he cares who believes him and who doesn't, but I thought it very necessary to point out that there is nothing wrong with doubting anything anyone says until they've proven themselves trustworthy to you. Going around believing EVERYTHING you hear/read just because "anything's possible" is not optimism, it's stupidity.

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We had no problem believing your 121 mph WITHOUT heads/cam, so why would you doubt our 125 mph WITH heads/cam?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Spindoctor:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I heard that. I just ran a 10.79 @ 123 in my internally-stock LS1 N/A with a 3300-lb. raceweight. Pretty cool, huh? I guess I just got a freak from the factory!! I don't want to see any BS flags either, because anyone who would raise one should just learn to deal with the fact that I ran the time and you didn't. No matter how fast you think you are, I promise you there's someone out there that is faster, so get on with your life. Just believe EVERYONE, even people you know nothing about, until you have good reason not to, because EVERYONE out there is sooooo trustworthy.

[insert shift to the real world here]

FYI, I do not necessarily disbelieve this character's claim, but I do not necessarily believe it either. He probably doesn't care who believes him and who doesn't, and I don't care whether or not he cares who believes him and who doesn't, but I thought it very necessary to point out that there is nothing wrong with doubting anything anyone says until they've proven themselves trustworthy to you. Going around believing EVERYTHING you hear/read just because "anything's possible" is not optimism, it's stupidity.

We had no problem believing your 121 mph WITHOUT heads/cam, so why would you doubt our 125 mph WITH heads/cam? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's funny, I don't recall saying I doubted "your" 125 MPH. As a matter of fact, I do recall making it clear that the statements I made did not reflect any belief or disbelief on my part, only that believing everything you hear/see is stupidity. If I doubted anything, it certainly wouldn't be the MPH.
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man i hadnt check this thread in awhile looks like theres a little disbelief in the air get with SPINDOCTOR and get my cell # and give me a call and ill set up a day to bring that video to ya then all the boys that wanna come over and watch it can they will have to bring the beer though to celebrate your times and give there congrats to you <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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IF you don't believe that the car can run those times, then don't. It is your choice, But I personally have seen the same car running consistent low, low 7's, and then i have seen a 6.97 and one of My best friends saw it run a 6.88. So If you don't think it ran 10.7 quarters then so be it.
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FaSSt ORANGE,

What kind of intake/exhaust do you have? I know you have the FLP headers, but what about the rest?

Any modifications to your T56? Is the transmission stock?

What did you use to tune your car?

Very good times, congrats !!
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tony it is amazing how you troll in on a thread and before you're through posting you blow your on horn.... Why is it always about you????</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROTLMAO are you saying he's egocentric? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Did this Fast Orange guy ever post up again, because a few folks say that his 10.7 was on spray and they are not saying it in a mean way but are just telling what they heard.
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boOoost,

Intake is a ls6/exhaust at the time was dual cutouts off the headers and then a slp 2 on the left. Made some changes now it is bullets with turn downs for racing with no catback.Stock trans, tuning in Nov. was stock with power programer. Now I have ls1 edit.


Pro Stock John,

I have not posted much since Nov. I haven't raced in the 1/4 for 4 months. Tried to go to Steele about a month ago, but they closed the track due to a sink hole.I Went to a local 1/8 track 2 weeks ago and ran some 6.90's on the motor with traction problems. As for my 10.76 pass being made with us of nitrous is BS. Up until 3 weeks ago the car has never had the spray on it. New times coming soon.Car made 452/433 NA, 644/800 on a TNT 150 shot
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A TNT 150-shot gave you 367 ft.-lbs. of torque?



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