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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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I'm no currently a m6 but I have never heard on a mildly modded car to dump the clutch at 5k+, most that do that seem to have the dreaded "bog". From what I have heard and read most guys lightly ride the clutch off from 3-4k and can keep from blowing the tires off while doing this. Just because you can still hook with sticky tires at 5k dumps don't mean it's gonna work.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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as said b4 guys, dont mind him...
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AK's WS6
I'm no currently a m6 but I have never heard on a mildly modded car to dump the clutch at 5k+, most that do that seem to have the dreaded "bog". From what I have heard and read most guys lightly ride the clutch off from 3-4k and can keep from blowing the tires off while doing this. Just because you can still hook with sticky tires at 5k dumps don't mean it's gonna work.
yes and no... yes on sticky et streets and slicks lightly modded m6 cars will bog outa the hole , but drag radials will blow off the the 1/8 mile on most bolt on ls1's if you dont feness them. he is launghing like he is on full slicks. and still sticking...
nittos are better then street tires but still no match to hold this kind of traction
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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Im sick and peverted. I think your post is funny. When you say " he is launching like he is on full slicks". Man, maybe its jus that Im tired or thats the redneck in me.

On a serious note, I think Im gonna quit launching like that before I tear the 10 bolt all the way the hell up. Its already swapping sides on me. It aint gonna work anyway so I will let'em spin a little. Im gonna put 4.10's in the 10 bolt before long even though I know its not gonna last just because when I eventually get to where Im making well over 400hp at the wheels Im gonna dump it on slicks at the rev limiter and break it. If it doesnt break on the 1st hit then I will hotlap it until it lets go. I get some sort of thrill out of destruction. I have always enjoyed seeing my property as well as others get torn up.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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Make sure and get that 10 bolt destruction on video!!
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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man, just save up and get a 9 inch with 4.56's and a locker, then get a spec stage 4
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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full-force, you really dont know the history, stfu. I showed what an *** I am... online.... in a FORUM... my life is ruined.

You really shouldn't launch like that on a 10 bolt. It's going to rip it to pieces, if that already hasn't started. Good luck.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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u tell me to shut the f up and then tell me good luck .... like i said before, you are off the damn hook dude
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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i told you to stfu about something that wasn't your business. Just letting you know. But that aside, good luck with your car. Calm down with the accusations.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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both of you two girls quit before you get sent back to LS1.com!!!!!
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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sorry
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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yeah, i better chill out since cerebrex has seniority over me .... locked or not, im moving on
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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"good kids"
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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hehehe its cool ram.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ramairstyle00
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lmmfao!!!!!

IS THAT ALL I HAD TO SAY

good job ram air
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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to the original trouble...
full force , getta 9" and a real clutch and we can resume testing your affair with the traction fairy
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jaberwaki


lmmfao!!!!!

IS THAT ALL I HAD TO SAY

good job ram air
There is nothing you can say. Oh, and one common theme in most of your posts is three or more "jesters." First off, one is sufficient. Secondly, maybe try something different since that one hasn't seemed to work out so well for you.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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I have a very similar problem. And it feels like traction controll. Although mine only does it under very hard straight line acceleration or under hard acceleration in corners. This happens on the street. I verified that I am loosing fuel psi at the rail. The car has a full tank of gas and I have not yet changed the filter yet. When it does this it will buck ( fuel on / off / on / off / on ). The car has a M6 and this happens well below the rev limiter.

Has anyone seen or heard of this. I cant imagine an intermittant fuel pump only under accel. But I suppose it is possible there could be a wiring problem under unibody stress.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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The problem is in the gearing. The Fbody T56 has a 2.66 first gear. When combined with the 3.42 gears in the stock rear the car while bog when it hooks. A little wheel spin will keep it from bogging down. With just a few mods the car does not have the power with the 2.66/3.42 combo to get off the line. Even with H/C and 4.10 gears I will still bog if I leave less that 6000 rpm and dead hook. The reason the Mustangs can get off the line with not a lot of rear gear is the first gear in the T5 is somewhere in the low 3.X (don't remember of the top of my head) The Z06 version of the T56 has the 2.95 first gear and does not have as much problem with the bog.

It's all is the first gear

With 3.42 gears in the rear, stock clutch and less than ~350 rwhp it's going to be tough to get less than a 1.8 '60. Until I went to the 4.10 gears in my 10 bolt I could not crack a 1.7 '60 to save my life. After the 4.10s it went down to 1.70-1.73 with the stock clutch.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
Car hooked like a sombitch and bogged after about a 10 foot leap forward.
The answer is self-evident: Try driving around the water box, spinning the tires a little to remove the dust and using the same launch technique. It could be that you have too much traction for the stock gear ratio. A 4.11 would be better.
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