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Old 05-23-2005, 04:19 PM
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Thanks guys and Jenibella for all of the comments and advice. I have installed a pair of the BMR rear coil spings. The ride height is the same, just had to remove the rubber piece, The relocator bracket I have has 3 settings, it was built by Extreme Chassis, the lca is set in the one closest to the ground. The rear of lca is lower than the front. My pinion angle is at -2. The next time out will be June 2, I will tighten-up the front struts, and go from there. Will keep you all posted. Thanks!!
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Why would you tighten the front end down to cure this problem?????


No offense Jenibella but Race cars dont squat only women do. Get the control arms to run uphill from rear to front. Then get a good antiroll on the rear. Tighten the shocks on the rear to 5-6 and run the car.




Originally Posted by bickelfirebird
The obvious observation is for you to tighten-up on the front struts to reduce the amount of travel. Start at full tight, and gradually back off on them until you get what you need.
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Hey Brian,
Can you demonstrate how a woman should squat?????????? I guess I missed that in sex ed!!! Thanks, my husband will appreciate it.
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V6 Bird, lets see some pic of your LCA brackets.

Madman, how much lower should the rear of the LCA be from the front?
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Normally I try to get atleast 2 degrees uphill in them.


jenibella I guess I should have said "Squat when they Pee"
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Thanks Madman
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We have our LCAs on the lowest hole on our RLBs, this gives you the angle MADMAN is talking about.

Brian and Jen,
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Originally Posted by MADMAN
Why would you tighten the front end down to cure this problem?
A process of elimination: The problem is with the front and/or rear shock settings. By taking travel out of the front (Step 1), he will reduce weight transfer to the rear. If Step 1 doesn't work, he should tightenup the rear shocks. This is a problem that has to be resolved at the track, we do it all the time with our 4 link car.
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Originally Posted by Charles Cyrus
These are a few pices of my car. It runs
60ft..1.58
1/8...7.07@97mph
1/4...11.14@120mph
This is All Motor. The car has a ford 8.8, spool with 3.73s on 28x11.5x15 ET streets. I have QA1s all around, front set at 4, rear on 10!. The rear stock springs have been cut. BMR adjustable torque arm and adjustable race LCA, relocator bracket. And the car does have a Wolfe Swaybar. Car has a th350 with a 3800 stall. Please help!
What condition/age are the rear shocks in? You may need to un-bolt them and manually test them to see if there is an adjustable resistance in them. A QA1 set that stiff should never allow that much compression. Also, what is the rear tire pressure? It is difficult to see with the shadow, but it looks like the wheel is almost into the pavement.

Good luck at the track!

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I will post my .02, since I have seen the car run, it runs great by the way Charles.

I always noticed that the front end lifted to full extension instantly - like within 1 foot off the line! Making the front adjustments like they said might take care of most of it. Have fun!

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Originally Posted by Charles Cyrus
Thanks guys and Jenibella for all of the comments and advice. I have installed a pair of the BMR rear coil spings. The ride height is the same, just had to remove the rubber piece, The relocator bracket I have has 3 settings, it was built by Extreme Chassis, the lca is set in the one closest to the ground. The rear of lca is lower than the front. My pinion angle is at -2. The next time out will be June 2, I will tighten-up the front struts, and go from there. Will keep you all posted. Thanks!!
htats the same brackets I sell..We went in together to have them manufactured
Change that rear spring and you should notice a tremendous difference.

For any one wanting to know about these brackets....They have 3 adjustment holes from stock instead of 2 like Everyone elses....This 3rd hole is what most cars like that are lowered by a pro kit or even a sportline setup.....They put more angle in the LCA then any other relocation bracket....More angle puts a closer to the rear instant center and does what the little picture posted above does if the right springs are in the rear. Cut springs wont work. Need to be a manufactured set of springs that are unmodified or cut. I run the Prokit on my car and in testing this car has seen 1.3 60's with a STOCK Torque Arm. That car makes right at 800 ft lbs at 4200 rpms.

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Originally Posted by SlickVert
V6 Bird, lets see some pic of your LCA brackets.

Madman, how much lower should the rear of the LCA be from the front?
I'll email them to you if you want to host em...

Send me an email at mhutto01@yahoo.com

I can take some of them on my car too if you'd like. Installation is critical with any welded suspension product.

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Originally Posted by MADMAN
Normally I try to get atleast 2 degrees uphill in them.


jenibella I guess I should have said "Squat when they Pee"
I havent measure the angle on my car but I know its more then 2 degrees for sure...2 aint much at all!

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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
htats the same brackets I sell..We went in together to have them manufactured
Change that rear spring and you should notice a tremendous difference.

For any one wanting to know about these brackets....They have 3 adjustment holes from stock instead of 2 like Everyone elses....This 3rd hole is what most cars like that are lowered by a pro kit or even a sportline setup.....They put more angle in the LCA then any other relocation bracket....More angle puts a closer to the rear instant center and does what the little picture posted above does if the right springs are in the rear. Cut springs wont work. Need to be a manufactured set of springs that are unmodified or cut. I run the Prokit on my car and in testing this car has seen 1.3 60's with a STOCK Torque Arm. That car makes right at 800 ft lbs at 4200 rpms.

Mike
Marks car had the prokit on it also.......1.27 60ft
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Originally Posted by GueSS Who
Marks car had the prokit on it also.......1.27 60ft
Another car with them on their and working!



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