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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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i don't ever want that problem, i already damaged some **** last year as an N/A 6 speed and i didn't go on the bumper. i had my suspension set poorly after changing to a bigger gear and tire(used old settings). car went up. dragged the exhaust tips on the mufflex dual tip i was running last year(better than my bumper) hard enough to groove the track and came down and smashed my headers and cracked my stupid oil pan(i don't have R series shocks, just F series up front)

oh well, i had no idea the gear tire change would effect things so radically suspension wise, live and you learn. couldn't afford to fix the headers, so they are still all messed up.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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A set of travel limiters will do wonders in most cases with keeping the front end down. Have you tried taking the dents in the header primaries out with a ball expander? What tranny and rear gear were you running?

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i don't ever want that problem, i already damaged some **** last year as an N/A 6 speed and i didn't go on the bumper. i had my suspension set poorly after changing to a bigger gear and tire(used old settings). car went up. dragged the exhaust tips on the mufflex dual tip i was running last year(better than my bumper) hard enough to groove the track and came down and smashed my headers and cracked my stupid oil pan(i don't have R series shocks, just F series up front)

oh well, i had no idea the gear tire change would effect things so radically suspension wise, live and you learn. couldn't afford to fix the headers, so they are still all messed up.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Elite_Hot_Rod
David I've had that video on my desk top for sometime now. Why do you think your car came down so hard on that pass?
Not sure. Like Eric, I shifted hoping to come down "gently". Unlike Eric, it didn't work out that way for me. I had done dozens of 18-24" wheelies, shifted and it come down nice and gentle, finishing the race without problem. That entire day it was that day, no indication it was going to stand up. The run was made just as it was getting dark, a little cooler, the track prep was great, and than bam.

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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I've watched your video many times back to back to back and it looks to me like you tapped the brakes just before the 60ft mark, that would definitely do it. I know what you mean about not expecting it though, for 2 weeks before last years Thunder Shoot Out my car would pulled them about 18" to 24" and track straight as an arrow, as soon as we made some passes at NPR the car starting pulling to the left and carrying the wheels alot further out then the next pass....it stood on it's tail.

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Not sure. Like Eric, I shifted hoping to come down "gently". Unlike Eric, it didn't work out that way for me. I had done dozens of 18-24" wheelies, shifted and it come down nice and gentle, finishing the race without problem. That entire day it was that day, no indication it was going to stand up. The run was made just as it was getting dark, a little cooler, the track prep was great, and than bam.

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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I don't "think" I did, but **** once you see the scoreboard, than the lights and than nothing but stars, anything is possible.

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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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do the limiters help that much? can it effect the landing? i would think it would land hard without the travle of the shocks?
i was thinking about putting them in
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
do the limiters help that much? can it effect the landing? i would think it would land hard without the travle of the shocks?
i was thinking about putting them in
Brad,

Limiters make a huge difference. When they limit the front end travel they stop the momentum of the car going up. You'd have them with 1/2" incremental adjustments so you can tune the car.

Even if you have wheelie bars you still want the limiters to tune the suspension.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by next
Brad,

Limiters make a huge difference. When they limit the front end travel they stop the momentum of the car going up. You'd have them with 1/2" incremental adjustments so you can tune the car.

Even if you have wheelie bars you still want the limiters to tune the suspension.
i think i will put them in this winter. i was going to do it a while ago, but never did.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Exactly,

You'd be surprised how much difference they can make when set up correctly, really no need for wheelie bars.

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Brad,

Limiters make a huge difference. When they limit the front end travel they stop the momentum of the car going up. You'd have them with 1/2" incremental adjustments so you can tune the car.

Even if you have wheelie bars you still want the limiters to tune the suspension.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Elite_Hot_Rod
Exactly,

You'd be surprised how much difference they can make when set up correctly, really no need for wheelie bars.
cool. im in
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