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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Question !Front bumper support with fog lights???

I have a 1995 Trans Am. I'm looking to remove the front bumper support. I want to keep my fog lights though. Im sure there are some guys here that have kept there fog lights while doing so. Can I get some Ideas how I can keep them and still get rid of that support? Could I just some how use screws to mount them in the bumper?

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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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nope nobdy has.
I'm sure you coulsd rig up a bracket but thats alot of trouble for some foglights.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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I've still got mine, I just plasma cut all the unecessary metal off of the bumper support. I was just left with a thin strip of metal that still bolted to the frame rails (prolly weighs 3-4 lbs) and it still has the brackets for the foglights.......
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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The foglights are held in by the bumper on mine. Maybe its just a formula thing though?

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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GS WS6
I've still got mine, I just plasma cut all the unecessary metal off of the bumper support. I was just left with a thin strip of metal that still bolted to the frame rails (prolly weighs 3-4 lbs) and it still has the brackets for the foglights.......
What ever happened to you mang? The car still runnin?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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I have heard a couple of people saying that when they removed the supports etc., when they would drive at high speeds, the nose would actually move and point downwards due to the downforce and the lack of any support behind the bumper. Can someone verify this?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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^ like over time , is that what you're asking, i've never done this but i have seen plenty that have , and they seem to do fine with it
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by scrmnws6
I have heard a couple of people saying that when they removed the supports etc., when they would drive at high speeds, the nose would actually move and point downwards due to the downforce and the lack of any support behind the bumper. Can someone verify this?
That is just some retarded myth. that with no bumper support at high speeds the plastic bumper will cave in on itself. give me a break. seen plenty of cars go 150+ with no bumper supports and only thing that happend was they got dead bugs on their bumper.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Juan,

the car is still running, just been driving it not racing it, but Im about to be back in the game in a month or so
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Hey now, its just something that I have heard. Thanks for clarifying for me.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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Mine is just as sturdy. No sagging or floping at all. The back is another story, kinda wiggly and flopy.

Chris
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Thanks for all the replies guys!

GS WS6, Did removing it make any differnce to you? Launching? Do you have any pics?

Thanks
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Weight savings, (esp on a M6) is incredibly important. I dont have any pics, but it helped my car in the 60' a whole lot. I did do other weight reduction at the same time though.

Neither my front nor rear bumpers sag at all. On the rear I made a small bracket that bolts to where the bumper support use to bolt, and then uses a plastic push clip to attach to the bumper itself. That made a world of difference in the sturdiness of the bumper and only cost me a few ounces in weight......
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SUX2BU
That is just some retarded myth. that with no bumper support at high speeds the plastic bumper will cave in on itself. give me a break. seen plenty of cars go 150+ with no bumper supports and only thing that happend was they got dead bugs on their bumper.

Myth huh? The front end with no support DOES FOLD UP.. and when you slow down it unfolds and when you get out of your car it may look like it did not but it did... This car is a prime example of a front end with no support behind it and this was taken at only about 100mph as he slowed down. If you dont think that front end was flat and slowing him down at 150 your dead wrong.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Mine doesnt move AT ALL, not even a little bit, I DD the car, it sees 100+ more or less everyday, been like this for 2 years.........(I've even been beside the car looking at the front clip while it was going over a 100, looked just like it does standing still)

That car in the pic above looks more wrecked than anything.......
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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yup back in the old street racin days i was in a friends Z06 (shotgun) running a camaro with no bumper support and it was at his door up till about 150 so i had a pretty good view. and it looked fine.
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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search for S_J_H in the forced induction forum. he removed his bumber for an FMIC and modded his brackets for his foglights.

I've seen a pic or video of Big Rick's nose going concave, but he had a fat-*** turbo creating a large area of vacuum behind his bumper.
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