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Old 01-24-2006 | 04:47 PM
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I a Sealed battery Legal (Optima) with a Hold down or does it have to be in a battery Box still??? Didnt know for sure..... I want to do it right.... and the damn search still isnt working Brian

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Old 01-24-2006 | 05:01 PM
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I've had the same question, and I haven't gotten an answer. From what I understand, NPR in Louisiana, which is pretty tough on tech, has let them pass without battery boxes. But, last time I looked up the rule, there was no different treatment for sealed batteries.
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Yeah Maybe Madman can clear this up...... Im looking at going wit the BMR holder for my Optima...... shouldi spend the $90 for it or spend a lil more for a Box?????
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EDIT: Per NHRA rulebook- NOT verbatim "in lieu of a rear firewall a sealed battery box must be used. box must be fastened to the frame rail or frame structure. box must be vented to the outside." Something to that effect. Taylor offers an NHRA approved battery box.

I'm not certain but I would imagine a wet-cell battery would require a firewall between the passenger compartment and itself. A dry-cell battery would not. I currently have a wet cell battery and plan on getting a Taylor sealed aluminum box to seal it up. Taylor's box is NHRA legal.

Correct me if I am wrong

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Old 01-24-2006 | 11:59 PM
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EDIT: Per NHRA rulebook- NOT verbatim "in lieu of a rear firewall a sealed battery box must be used. box must be fastened to the frame rail or frame structure. box must be vented to the outside." Something to that effect. Taylor offers an NHRA approved battery box.

I'm not certain but I would imagine a wet-cell battery would require a firewall between the passenger compartment and itself. A dry-cell battery would not. I currently have a wet cell battery and plan on getting a Taylor sealed aluminum box to seal it up. Taylor's box is NHRA legal.

Correct me if I am wrong

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MADMAN is going to Clarify this for us on Friday when he Talks to the Inspector when he swings by his shop.
I hope not......... either way ill do what it takes...

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Old 01-25-2006 | 01:29 AM
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I'm sure he will say any battery moved. They do at our track.
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Yeah Maybe Madman can clear this up...... Im looking at going wit the BMR holder for my Optima...... shouldi spend the $90 for it or spend a lil more for a Box?????
Kyle
To me that 90 bucks is a rip off...You can get a Taylor Aluminum batter box for cheapter. And it is NHRA legal. Thunder Racking carries them. here is a link:
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...d=184&pcid=105
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moroso makes a sealed battery box and a vent to the out side for it.. thats what i put in my trunk in the T-top "cubby"
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Guys I asked my tech inspector on Saturday when I got my cage certified. It is ANY BATTERY. I specifically asked about Optimas because that is what I have and he said YES ANY battery, so I was glad I had mine in a box

The rules havent caught up with technology and may never.
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Just get the taylor box. Not only is it cheaper but it looks SWEET polished and stuck in the t-top hole. I got mine yesterday
Old 01-25-2006 | 11:42 AM
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rule book doesn't differentiate between battery types...

so any battery must be in a sealed box if its in the rear...
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Already ordered the Tray from BMR.... Looks like ill be getting the Taylor box too..... I dont want it in the well...... I would like to keep that open.....
We will see.... ill be sure to post pic's when mines done...... This is good info for everyone.....

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I would send the BMR tray back...very overpriced.
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I was pokin' around online today and saw this. Maybe you guys would be interested in the AFCO mount and this piece.

http://www.wolferacecraft.com/detail.aspx?ID=783
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I'm gonna buy the taylor battery relocation kit with the wires and all, then fab up a mount similar to BMR's in the spare tire area.

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Originally Posted by DOUBT IT
I was pokin' around online today and saw this. Maybe you guys would be interested in the AFCO mount and this piece.

http://www.wolferacecraft.com/detail.aspx?ID=783

That wont work for me........



Prob Going to send the tray back.... i dont think it and a Box will fit there under the plastic panel......
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The tray and box will fit as long as the box fits "in" the tray. BMR's tray mounts in the well area where the spare was. I can't imagine any interference from the plastic piece. I am fabbing a structure similar to a BMR battery tray mount to house my Taylor battery box. That way NHRA tech's can't say anything since it is fastened to a frame structure AND sealed in an NHRA approved battery box.

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Thanks Andy..........
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Old 01-26-2006 | 08:31 PM
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Kyle, I've already pursued this one with the NHRA. The rule currently stands as is. A battery must be in a box if there is no firewall as was written above. Just because it's sealed doesn't separate the acid in the battery from the driver in the event of a puncture. A rear firewall of sorts does.

The small Summit aluminum battery box fits in the spare tire well just fine.
Old 01-26-2006 | 09:36 PM
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Kyle, I've already pursued this one with the NHRA. The rule currently stands as is. A battery must be in a box if there is no firewall as was written above. Just because it's sealed doesn't separate the acid in the battery from the driver in the event of a puncture. A rear firewall of sorts does.

The small Summit aluminum battery box fits in the spare tire well just fine.

Thanks Steve. I talked to Joe and he had already ordered the battery Tray so were going to use it and the Taylor Box. I believe it was the same one Kevin used...... That way i am legal.
Thanks guys for your input.

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