Not impressed with the MT DR's
Originally Posted by racer88
Hey Derek, seeing you know what I am talking about with MMP. Sunday for Hot Rod Sunday my best 60' on Nittos was 1.83 and a 1.86 which is 'okay' but isn't what I can do at BMP. So I decided to stick the MT's on for last night, they were off of Les' car last year so it wasn't a biggie or a waste of $ to be disappointed. I am probably going to go to the BFG's, seeing I feel they'd be a bit more forgiving as the Nitto's are yet a tad stickier. Funny though I did mark the sidewall for the heck of it and I again moved the left side so there is no doubt that the car hooks.
Dave said the same thing, they didn't work well when he was an M6. I do well on the Nitto's if the track is hooking but this bogging is driving me nuts. It's like I don't have enough tire on a sticky track like BMP but too much of a tire is gonna make me come out over 5K and well..........not that my clutch doesn't work GREAT for stock, it's not the disc I worry about more like the rest of it.
Dave said the same thing, they didn't work well when he was an M6. I do well on the Nitto's if the track is hooking but this bogging is driving me nuts. It's like I don't have enough tire on a sticky track like BMP but too much of a tire is gonna make me come out over 5K and well..........not that my clutch doesn't work GREAT for stock, it's not the disc I worry about more like the rest of it.
Too bad you couldn't screw drag radials, it might help ya a little.
Originally Posted by racer88
Maybe it's my way of launching and a combination of our **** track. The track was okay but I can't understand why they'd 'snap' for that second and I'd bog or spin. 
Best 60' @ 15 PSI 1.84 going out at 4K
I spun the MT's on the rim left side a good 2 inches from the valve stem where I marked it for curiositys sake but never cut anything to write home about. I was just at the same track Sunday for Hot Rod Sunday and cut a 1.83 on my Nittos.
I was hoping I'd see mid 1.7's considering our tracks prep is shitzo. Anyone have a suggestion? I've cut better 60's there on 15" Nittos 1.78-1.81 to be exact.
Best 60' @ 15 PSI 1.84 going out at 4K
I spun the MT's on the rim left side a good 2 inches from the valve stem where I marked it for curiositys sake but never cut anything to write home about. I was just at the same track Sunday for Hot Rod Sunday and cut a 1.83 on my Nittos.
I was hoping I'd see mid 1.7's considering our tracks prep is shitzo. Anyone have a suggestion? I've cut better 60's there on 15" Nittos 1.78-1.81 to be exact.
I also have a M6 car, and run M/T drag radials on my prostars. they hooked great at the track. i was dumping it at 5,000 rpm and it would jump forward hard then bog. so next run i tried 6,000 rpm and the clutch slipped bad. clutch is toast, the car was then done for the year
now on the street...these tires suck *** soo bad. i preped a road w/ vht and these ******* would spin at a 3,000 rpm launch. tried heatig them a little, tried heating them alot, tired differnt tire pressure. the car was squirly outta the hole evrey time. Mickey Thompson told me that these do not work well w/ manual transmission cars. so he reccomended i use some et streets or and et drag to get it to hook up well on the street.
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Claire,
They are undoubtedly the best DR tire on the market. I agree with Derek that you should have tried to up your psi. Before you give up on them go back and keep the launch at 4k and up the tire pressure 1/2 lbs each pass. You'll probably find they like more pressure.
They are undoubtedly the best DR tire on the market. I agree with Derek that you should have tried to up your psi. Before you give up on them go back and keep the launch at 4k and up the tire pressure 1/2 lbs each pass. You'll probably find they like more pressure.
they looked nice and full But I dropped them down to 17 and then from there I went down to about 13. It's almost a do or don't I guess. I got them heated well then Dave told me to not get them as hot. The lesser of the heat seemed to be better and when I went out after S/Pro seeing them left some rubber there. It's too bad I didn't try them around 20 and work my way down as you said but I was the first car out on the track seeing I was early so it would have been hard to go down in PSI seeing the pressure went up in them when I checked and put them down some more from hot lapping with burnouts. I think they are on the shot side I may try them another time and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by SLowETz
What he ^ said. First time out w/the 325/50/15's I broke an aftermarket TA and ripped the DS in half. They work. EDIT* Car does have adjustable suspension.
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Originally Posted by StangEaterSS
I also have a M6 car, and run M/T drag radials on my prostars. they hooked great at the track. i was dumping it at 5,000 rpm and it would jump forward hard then bog. so next run i tried 6,000 rpm and the clutch slipped bad. clutch is toast, the car was then done for the year
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So, I bogged on Nitto's and called it a day. My clutch is fine and holds with that Kevlar disc but the reality is I don't want to start going into clutches to launch my car at 6K all the time.
Well maybe I will work on getting a TQ arm then see what happens. But in a month the season for us will be getting warmer and my car will be down a few weeks with the motor build.
So I will be back out finishing this season the BFG's and Nitto's.
I am not ******* these tires at all. Just trying to figure out what I need to do because my car does hook. So anyone who loves these tires and shorts well on them, this isn't an insult or a bash to the MT tires at all, just disappointment
I am just disappointed in the results I thought I'd see better 60' at the home **** track 1.7's would be fine there knowing at BMP low 1.7's would definatley happen with their prep.
Last edited by racer88; Feb 11, 2006 at 01:10 PM.
clair its how you are launching the car and your combination. it all has to be there. dont blame the tire. locals are going 1.32 60' on that tire. hell, my **** box goes 1.47 on the m/t drag radials with ME driving it! 
btw i ran 22 psi in mine. i went down to 15-16 psi and spun adn wheel hoped my *** off. they didnt work that low. its not how the tire is designed. forget what you know about nittos. slip the clutch and if your car makes enough tq that car will go high 1.6 60' times easily.
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I am going to go out on them another time this time with more air in them. I had no idea that you didn't have to drop them down. Gator, as for Moroso 1.7's was all I was shooting for knowing a few who have gone 1.6's on them and on so so nights best they've done are upper 1.7's.
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i would start with the chasis...there have been several 7.5x second 1/4 mile passes on the MT ET Radial without an issue so if they can hook you shouldn't have an issue once you get the chasis dialed in
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Originally Posted by Carbed4thGen
Did anyone else notice that she said the tire was spinning on the rim? That could be a big problem
Maybe I need more power?
Originally Posted by racer88
It's weird that it does this, left side always worse then the right. I spun my Nitto's a good 4" from where I marked it over at BMP same thing launching at 4K and bogging but hooking then falling flat on it's face.
Maybe I need more power?
Maybe I need more power?
Maybe u need to get the RPM's a bit higher? Maybe try ot get it to spin a bit more then once u do hookup u should be high enough in teh rpms for it not to bog?
Originally Posted by skipperbisket
if the tire is moving on the wheel you don't need more power (regarding that atleast) you need some rim screws to resolve that problem and i would bet you'd pick up...
The M/T DR is the best drag radial on the market HANDS DOWN! There is no way in hell that a set of Nitto DR's are out performing the M/T DR's.. If the car is bogging then bounce the bitch off the rev limiter and see what happens.. I'd bet my *** that you will either hear a loud "BAM" and some broken parts will scatter out from under your car or you will get the best 60ft you have ever had.
Everyone I know is running the M/Ts and we all love them. I broke 2 axles in two straight weekends with those tires on my buddies mustang. Everyone I know that runs the MT Radials have picked up their short times alot..
Everyone I know is running the M/Ts and we all love them. I broke 2 axles in two straight weekends with those tires on my buddies mustang. Everyone I know that runs the MT Radials have picked up their short times alot..
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Originally Posted by 1QuickT-A
Oh yeah, make sure that you do a nice smokey burnout with the M/Ts.. Treat them just like a set of slicks.