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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Is it ok to use a strut tower brace in a 9-10second car at the track?
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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why its extra weight?
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Because my buddy has one, I want it, so I need to convince him he doesn't need it
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Your buddy has a 9-10 second drag car and has a STB on it? That seems a little silly.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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There is no use for it if your car will be drag race only (no auto-x)
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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If a car was setup for autox and was running single digits in the 1/4 then thta would be one HELL of a car
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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My car runs 10.5's and I still have my STB in the car, I never take it off. All I need to go from the drag strip to the Auto-X course is a swap of tires and to put my front sway bar back on. I have Auto-X'd the car plenty of times.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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This question seems to always get mix reviews.

It seems we put sub frame connectors, bigger sway bar and even roll bars/gages on our cars but don't seem to think that the STB will help.

My car travels the first 60 feet at 1.56 +/- and runs 7.30's at 92 MPH in the 1/8 mile and I have all of the above installed on it.

In reviewing video's the car leaves the line great with both front tires coming off the ground just a 1/4" to 1/2" and then just touching the ground in the first 60 feet.

I do not know if it hurts or helps the car but I feel good knowing the car is being held together by additional bracing.

With all that being said, I don't run 10's yet but I built my car to make as many passes in one day at the track as I can and it seems to be holding up very well. No dents in the quarter panels yet.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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You make a good point about leaving the line straighter with the added bracing...that may very well be possible.

I dont know if the benefit of the straighter launch outweighs the weight on the nose though.

But still...its a good point.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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A strut tower brace has nothing to do with the twisting of the chassis. The problem is not in the front. Hence the roll cages, SFCs, and Anti-Roll bars in the back, and no sway bar or additional bracing in the front.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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As I stated in the original post this question always gets mixed reviews.

Not for sure if everyone is worried about 5 or 6 lbs, I know If I were than every part I have taken off my car would not have been replaced with a heavier part including the installation of a 135 lb. mild steel full roll cage.

I quess when a person wants the best ET and the highest MPH they can get out of their car then they can take out the STB and put a 18 lb. battery in instead of the 36 lb. battery.

But my car is slow so I think I'll keep the STB in it. The best it has ever run NA is 11.94 at 111 MPH.

Lets see when you stomp on the gas pedal and the engine torque trys to lift the left front wheel off the ground after the soft rubber engine mount on the drivers is stressed to the limit maybe just maybe that STB may aid in helping the car sixty foot better.

But who knows really! I don't think it is goint to hurt to use it if you want to!

Good luck on the 2007 racing season. I can't believe it but we have already gone twice this year.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Interesting debate. I have always wondered if it would help keep the front flatter when launching hard.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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You don't see any serious, professional built NHRA stock or super stock F body cars with them. My guess would be you don't need one.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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I thought it acted similar to the front sway bar which does not let the car lift as much as it would without it.

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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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No need for it.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
I thought it acted similar to the front sway bar which does not let the car lift as much as it would without it.
Nope.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
You don't see any serious, professional built NHRA stock or super stock F body cars with them. My guess would be you don't need one.
But they do have 2000+ horsepower... you don't exactly need that either. I say leave it on... what can it hurt? It's not like the weight of one will make or break a fast car.
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