Drag Racing Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Drag radial guys

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:22 PM
  #1  
rickssz's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Default Drag radial guys

Anyone use various rim sizes with their drag radials? Im trying to find out if a same height 15" drag radial gets better traction than a 17" drag radial due to increased sidewall and flex compression etc? Manual transmission launches are my concern.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:34 PM
  #2  
iamsickofitall's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 0
From: Clifton, NJ
Default

the sidewall difference between a 15" and 17" DR of the same type/size will make a difference, the sidewall on the 15 being the better of course
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:21 PM
  #3  
TJ's Avatar
TJ
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,051
Likes: 1
From: pensacola fl
Default

i didnt think a radial was recommended for a stick shift car?
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:25 PM
  #4  
danhr's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 447
Likes: 1
From: Ford City, PA
Default

Originally Posted by TJ
i didnt think a radial was recommended for a stick shift car?
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:29 PM
  #5  
smok'nZ's Avatar
MASS seller approved
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (160)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,960
Likes: 3
From: OKLAHOMA
Default

Originally Posted by danhr
X2
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:45 PM
  #6  
TwoFast4Lv's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,023
Likes: 6
From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
Default

Just talked for a while with the M/T rep and yes they are not recomending the DRs for Stick cars. they just shock teh tires to damn hard
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 10:28 PM
  #7  
TJ's Avatar
TJ
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,051
Likes: 1
From: pensacola fl
Default

Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
Just talked for a while with the M/T rep and yes they are not recomending the DRs for Stick cars. they just shock teh tires to damn hard
yip.
some have good luck. there are always those cases.
on another note, i hear the MT ET DRAG SLICK with a radial construction works good on a stick car. not ever to be driven on, but good for the track.
you can get them thin too. 28-29-30"x9"
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2007 | 11:28 PM
  #8  
SiL3NtXWS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,760
Likes: 1
Default

yup, DRs are not good for launching on m6 cars. They are good for roll racing though since it's the best alternative to street tires.

I picked up a ton of traction going from a 17inch wheel to a 15inch wheel with a DR.

I would recommend ET streets over ET street radials for an M6 car.

For a track only tire, m6, go with a stiff sidewall slick.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:27 PM
  #9  
smok'nZ's Avatar
MASS seller approved
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (160)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,960
Likes: 3
From: OKLAHOMA
Default

i had mt dr's for a while very nice from a roll but a dig drop the psi to about 15-19 and they hook on my car when it was bolt on and e.t street slicks you will blow up stock rear
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:36 PM
  #10  
TJ's Avatar
TJ
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,051
Likes: 1
From: pensacola fl
Default

Originally Posted by smok'nZ
i had mt dr's for a while very nice from a roll but a dig drop the psi to about 15-19 and they hook on my car when it was bolt on and e.t street slicks you will blow up stock rear
ive cut harder 60ft on a mt radial over a 28x9 slick and a et street. so the radial can blow up a stock rear im sure.
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:26 PM
  #11  
jimbob's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: Woodinville, WA
Default

Ellis did a 1.52 60 foot first time out last year with 275 40 17's....To bad the fuel pump took a crap that day before more tweaking could be done...Hoping this year for easy 1.4's with a new Yank converter vs. my now broke as hell PI 3200 verter.... They can work very well in the right combo...
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:19 PM
  #12  
TJ's Avatar
TJ
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,051
Likes: 1
From: pensacola fl
Default

Originally Posted by jimbob
Ellis did a 1.52 60 foot first time out last year with 275 40 17's....To bad the fuel pump took a crap that day before more tweaking could be done...Hoping this year for easy 1.4's with a new Yank converter vs. my now broke as hell PI 3200 verter.... They can work very well in the right combo...
on a 275/40?
damn. how hard can that tire 60ft.
1.52 sounds close to its limits, though im no tire expert.
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:44 PM
  #13  
TwoFast4Lv's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,023
Likes: 6
From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
Default

Originally Posted by TJ
on a 275/40?
damn. how hard can that tire 60ft.
1.52 sounds close to its limits, though im no tire expert.
I am betting 1.4s
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:16 AM
  #14  
tektrans's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,377
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by danhr
Quick with the comments.
The MT dr's are not recommended for stick cars or for transbrake auto cars.
Even though some have had some success it is almost always because the car is not making big power.
When I was running the 325 50 15's off the footbrake I was running consistent low 1.4 60's with a best of 1.41 but I never hooked once off the transbrake.
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 05:59 PM
  #15  
93camaro_zzz's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 3
From: San Diego, Ca.
Default

We need to specify. For those not wanting to buy wheels, obviously a 275 DR will be leaps and bounds better than a street tire on a stick car. Would easily be good for some 1.6's. And for a street car, thats pretty adequate. IMO.
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:42 PM
  #16  
SuperSport4life's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
From: Long Island, NY
Default

I have an m6 and i cut a 1.7 60 ft with 275/40r17 m/t drag radials. I have a lightly modded bolt on car with STOCK suspension. I don't understand why people are saying this tire is no good for a stick car. I have had alot of sucess with this tire. My buddy with a h/c m6 car has hit a 1.6 60 ft with the same tire. I don't understand where this is comming from?
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:05 AM
  #17  
TwoFast4Lv's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,023
Likes: 6
From: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
Default

Originally Posted by SuperSport4life
I have an m6 and i cut a 1.7 60 ft with 275/40r17 m/t drag radials. I have a lightly modded bolt on car with STOCK suspension. I don't understand why people are saying this tire is no good for a stick car. I have had alot of sucess with this tire. My buddy with a h/c m6 car has hit a 1.6 60 ft with the same tire. I don't understand where this is comming from?
It is all in how much power you are trying to stick

I come out of the hole on a 200RWHP shot and a 800RWTQ spike Going for a ride does not even cover what it feels like and I am spinning past the tree to 1.4x 60fts every time
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:18 AM
  #18  
02 Camaro SS's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,832
Likes: 0
From: Rockland County, NY
Default

With an M6 you cannot just dump the clutch with them or you will just spin. The trick is to come off the clutch VERY quickly. With 255/50/16s I pop wheelies and have not hit the limits of the tire yet. I haven't tried launching above 5000 RPM yet but I am expecting low 1.6s launching 5500-6000. This is with 423 RWHP, 12 bolt with 4.11s and light suspension modifications and 3660 raceweight.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:42 AM
  #19  
93camaro_zzz's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 3
From: San Diego, Ca.
Default

Originally Posted by 02 Camaro SS
With an M6 you cannot just dump the clutch with them or you will just spin. The trick is to come off the clutch VERY quickly. With 255/50/16s I pop wheelies and have not hit the limits of the tire yet. I haven't tried launching above 5000 RPM yet but I am expecting low 1.6s launching 5500-6000. This is with 423 RWHP, 12 bolt with 4.11s and light suspension modifications and 3660 raceweight.
NICE! hat was the other thing I might go with, is 255 MT DR's.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:53 AM
  #20  
pontiac's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 859
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Default

I run 275/40X17 MT drag radial on my normal rims, thats the tires for crusing and street racing. becasue no matter what i can not launch the car at 6000 amps on the street and the radials hook just as good and ride alot better ont he street. but at the track i run a 10.5X16 MT et street. adn wrinkle wall lets me hit the tires alot hard,. I dump the clutch at 6000rpm's off the two step. and they will hook, sometimes the spin the tires inside the rims. haha. M6 car, best tire i have ever had on the street. but does not hook like the other. at the track
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:58 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE