Basic M6 Launch Facts Illustrated
05-09-2007, 06:54 PM
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I spent some time talking with my perf shop guy who has raced alot of different cars with different setups, he knows how to run cars.
We talked about launching a m6 fbody today, the one thing that these cars need is gear, this will allow you to leave softer and not have to slip the clutch much. A stock clutch when it gets to a certain temp gets very greasy. Either off the limiter with a decent upgrade or let it slip out.
As much as its about having a tire and suspension, the clutch has to slip.
We talked about launching a m6 fbody today, the one thing that these cars need is gear, this will allow you to leave softer and not have to slip the clutch much. A stock clutch when it gets to a certain temp gets very greasy. Either off the limiter with a decent upgrade or let it slip out.
As much as its about having a tire and suspension, the clutch has to slip.
05-10-2007, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
I spent some time talking with my perf shop guy who has raced alot of different cars with different setups, he knows how to run cars.
We talked about launching a m6 fbody today, the one thing that these cars need is gear, this will allow you to leave softer and not have to slip the clutch much. A stock clutch when it gets to a certain temp gets very greasy. Either off the limiter with a decent upgrade or let it slip out.
As much as its about having a tire and suspension, the clutch has to slip.
We talked about launching a m6 fbody today, the one thing that these cars need is gear, this will allow you to leave softer and not have to slip the clutch much. A stock clutch when it gets to a certain temp gets very greasy. Either off the limiter with a decent upgrade or let it slip out.
As much as its about having a tire and suspension, the clutch has to slip.
Yea, but if you built it for a kit you can't run a lot of gear. So I say either pill it or gear it! 3.89's are perfect for a kit and 4.10+ are perfect for motor.
05-10-2007, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TeEnAgE pHeNoM
Yea, but if you built it for a kit you can't run a lot of gear. So I say either pill it or gear it! 3.89's are perfect for a kit and 4.10+ are perfect for motor.
05-10-2007, 09:16 AM
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About 4 years ago I had a used H/C setup [396hp 381TQ] and a 75wetshot [450hp 507 TQ on the bottle]
I ran it on 4.11's and trapped 128+
4.11's and a shot... first gear was fun!
I ran it on 4.11's and trapped 128+
4.11's and a shot... first gear was fun!
05-10-2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by black_z
I plan to put a kit on my 4.30 geared M6 car.
05-10-2007, 10:34 PM
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nearly full weight camaro
jegster torque arm/lca's/eibach pro lowering springs, everything else stock
376 rwhp
12 bolt w/4.30 gears, 26x11,50x15 et streets
rev to 6200, dump clutch with the gas pedal on the floor.
1.53 60'. easy! lol
jegster torque arm/lca's/eibach pro lowering springs, everything else stock
376 rwhp
12 bolt w/4.30 gears, 26x11,50x15 et streets
rev to 6200, dump clutch with the gas pedal on the floor.
1.53 60'. easy! lol
05-10-2007, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by black_z
I really just want a 10 sec slip with cam, boltons and N20.
You will get it. I ran a cam only TR230/224 with a TNT 150 shot. On 26" ET streets. It ran 10.82 @ 126 and 10.87 @ 125 back to back on a all motor tune. First time ever spraying the 150 shot. LOL. I was very happy.
05-11-2007, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by black_z
I really just want a 10 sec slip with cam, boltons and N20.
Its very possible, just going to take a few runs to get right.
05-11-2007, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BADSZ28
You will run out of gear with 28's. Grabbing 5th is no fun. Unless it's a Jerrico.
I think it might work, it will all depend on how much RPM he has to play with.
with 4.30's and a 28" tire
@6000 = 116 mph
@6200 = 120 mph
@6400 = 124 mph
@6600 = 128 mph
@6800 = 132 mph
@7000 = 136 mph
@7200 = 139 mph
With a stock rod bolts I think 6400 is safe, but might not be enough room with a shot and a cam.
Add ARP Rod Bolts and you are safe to 7000. 136 mph is MORE then enough room for a cam only + 150 shot. You will most likely be in the 128 - 130 range, judging by other, non all out race car, Cam+Bottle cars.
05-11-2007, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
I remember putting the 100 jets in and having to shift 5th... the car ran the same ET as with the 75jets but lost 2mph cause it took so long to shift. LOL
I think it might work, it will all depend on how much RPM he has to play with.
with 4.30's and a 28" tire
@6000 = 116 mph
@6200 = 120 mph
@6400 = 124 mph
@6600 = 128 mph
@6800 = 132 mph
@7000 = 136 mph
@7200 = 139 mph
With a stock rod bolts I think 6400 is safe, but might not be enough room with a shot and a cam.
Add ARP Rod Bolts and you are safe to 7000. 136 mph is MORE then enough room for a cam only + 150 shot. You will most likely be in the 128 - 130 range, judging by other, non all out race car, Cam+Bottle cars.
I think it might work, it will all depend on how much RPM he has to play with.
with 4.30's and a 28" tire
@6000 = 116 mph
@6200 = 120 mph
@6400 = 124 mph
@6600 = 128 mph
@6800 = 132 mph
@7000 = 136 mph
@7200 = 139 mph
With a stock rod bolts I think 6400 is safe, but might not be enough room with a shot and a cam.
Add ARP Rod Bolts and you are safe to 7000. 136 mph is MORE then enough room for a cam only + 150 shot. You will most likely be in the 128 - 130 range, judging by other, non all out race car, Cam+Bottle cars.
Yea I remember when I had 4:10's and had to shift to 5th but the kit cut off at 6000. I ended up going to 3:89's and couldn't hook it on a 26" tire. I bumped the limiter to 7000 and put a 6800 pill in it and turned in on up on the stock bottom end. I think I needed a 28" tire and it would have hooked a lot better. It could be that 640RWTQ+ is too much for a 26" tire.
05-11-2007, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
I remember putting the 100 jets in and having to shift 5th... the car ran the same ET as with the 75jets but lost 2mph cause it took so long to shift. LOL
I think it might work, it will all depend on how much RPM he has to play with.
with 4.30's and a 28" tire
@6000 = 116 mph
@6200 = 120 mph
@6400 = 124 mph
@6600 = 128 mph
@6800 = 132 mph
@7000 = 136 mph
@7200 = 139 mph
With a stock rod bolts I think 6400 is safe, but might not be enough room with a shot and a cam.
Add ARP Rod Bolts and you are safe to 7000. 136 mph is MORE then enough room for a cam only + 150 shot. You will most likely be in the 128 - 130 range, judging by other, non all out race car, Cam+Bottle cars.
I think it might work, it will all depend on how much RPM he has to play with.
with 4.30's and a 28" tire
@6000 = 116 mph
@6200 = 120 mph
@6400 = 124 mph
@6600 = 128 mph
@6800 = 132 mph
@7000 = 136 mph
@7200 = 139 mph
With a stock rod bolts I think 6400 is safe, but might not be enough room with a shot and a cam.
Add ARP Rod Bolts and you are safe to 7000. 136 mph is MORE then enough room for a cam only + 150 shot. You will most likely be in the 128 - 130 range, judging by other, non all out race car, Cam+Bottle cars.
05-11-2007, 11:29 AM
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Question Very nice chart, just wondering what software you used to collect that data?
Also green is throttle position correct? My Z is an A4, but im just wondering, why are you letting off the throttle between shifts? especially with a strong rear? wouldnt you just want to leave the throttle on the floor and be quick with the clutch? Not being a wise *** or anything, just curious of the reason...
Thanks
Also green is throttle position correct? My Z is an A4, but im just wondering, why are you letting off the throttle between shifts? especially with a strong rear? wouldnt you just want to leave the throttle on the floor and be quick with the clutch? Not being a wise *** or anything, just curious of the reason...
Thanks