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Old May 5, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Are any of you guys running this class?
How do I find a schedule for this class? I tryed NHRAs website but no luck its kinda confusing to me.
I read the NHRA rule book rules on this class.
From what I understand its kinda like Super Gas but with a slower index right?
TS and delay box permitted right?
What about oem computer, can you still use it?
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Old May 5, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
Are any of you guys running this class?
How do I find a schedule for this class? I tryed NHRAs website but no luck its kinda confusing to me.
I read the NHRA rule book rules on this class.
From what I understand its kinda like Super Gas but with a slower index right?
TS and delay box permitted right?
What about oem computer, can you still use it?
Okay to answer the questions:

I'm not running it, but have plenty of friends running it.

A schedule for the national events, or divisional events?
http://www.nhra.com/2007/schedule.asp and search for classes run at each event. You usually can't just enter a national event to race without "grading points" and those are awarded per the # of divisional races you attend each year.
I see you're in Tennessee, and that's division 2 for 3 tracks (Bristol, Music City and Northwest Tennessee), and one division 4 track as well (Memphis).
Division 2 schedule: www.nhradiv2.com/schedule.asp?Type=D&Div=2&Series=Lucas%20Oil%20Dra g%20Racing%20Series
Division 4 schedule: www.nhradiv4.com/schedule.asp?Type=D&Div=4&Series=Lucas%20Oil%20Dra g%20Racing%20Series

Super Street is similar to Super Gas and Super Comp with a pre-set index and a pro-tree, but a few differences:

#1 10.90 index
#2 .500 pro-tree instead of .400 pro-street (used in super gas and comp)

Throttle stop, delay box, transbrake and two-step permitted

I believe OEM computer allowed in any class provided no laptop in the car during a run, but you may want to contact a division director for a final answer on this. A list of division directors and tech assistance you should find on NHRA's web page.

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Old May 5, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Yes sir... I've been setting up throttle stop timers since I was 13

Villain hit all the main points. I'm also not sure about OEM computer without looking at it. The IHRA/NHRA ban "data recorders" for super classes, there is some rule about it but not having a rule book handy I'm not sure. Being in Tennessee the races you could hit that come to mind:

Bowling Green, KY - NHRA divisional race
Clay City, KY - IHRA divisional race
Douglas, GA - IHRA divisional race

There's races in SC as well, not sure how close you are to those.

My take is that I like IHRA better. IHRA has 2 races in one weekend while NHRA has one day for qualifying (Saturday) and no time runs/race on Sunday. With many IHRA races you can run two points races in the same weekend. As far as national events, with the NHRA you have to have qualifying points to be allowed to attend a national event so that would be something you would have to look at for the future if you really were into it.

We've run the full divisional schedule before and it gets pricey. Leave Friday and get there Friday night ($120 entry fee for car/driver) then you're there all weekend. If you're good at it it's a TON of fun and you can make some cash off of it. Just something you have to try out first and see if you get the hang of it.

If you EVER need help on this I will gladly help, I may not know a lot but I have seen a lot with pro class racing. I could even give you a base timer setup if you need one, I'll be at the Clay City divisional (4th of July weekend), if you came there me and my dad both will be running our cars so I can help if needed.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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Thanks for the info guys.

Hrod382- I am not ready yet I looking a maybe next year or maybe the year after that. I still have to get a transmission which will probley be next year. also I have to finish building the car this year, but I might get in contact with you when that time comes though.

The car should be a low/mid 10 second car.

The part about the oem computer. The reason I asked is the NHRA book says:

Support Group: 9
Computer

Prohibited. See general regulations 9:1

I looked up 9:1 and OEM computer is permitted.



So on the points thing: with NHRA you would have to attend the divisional races first, then the next year you can attend national events?
With IHRA can you go strait to the national events?

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As long as your car will pass tech you will be welcomed at any IHRA race National or Divisional. Be prepared to have a bunch of fun!
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Old May 6, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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So is this class run at every national event?
Do you have to qualify for this race? if so is it top 16 cars?
or is it everyone who enters races and qualifing just determines who you race?
or is there no qualifing?

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Old May 6, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
So is this class run at every national event?
Do you have to qualify for this race? if so is it top 16 cars?
or is it everyone who enters races and qualifing just determines who you race?
or is there no qualifing?
1. Yes in IHRA (The 10.90 class is called Hot Rod and runs on a 7.00 index at 1/8 th mile events too).

2. Hot Rod normally gets two time runs to dial in their cars. I believe that first round pairing is random. The best package in qualifying gets the bye run (If there is one).

3. IHRA hosts an "all run" field.

This is a link to the third round eliminations yesterday. Notice the packages that these guys are putting together. Be prepared for some tough competition if you are going to run either sanctioning body.

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2007#indextop

Good Luck,

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Old May 6, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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I seen this class running on TV yesterday.
It may have been that same one you gave me.

How hard is it to use a throttle stop?
I have never used one before but I do have experience with a delay box.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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The throttle stop might be tricky at first.

Basically you have two settings... The first is when the car shuts off then the second is how long it will be shut off (on most delay boxes). I recommend a CO2 stop (as opposed to a blade setup). You then set up your idle for when it's on the stop and you start plugging numbers. If your delay box has the setting you can also run a 'starting line enhancer' when not running on a pro tree, levels out 60 fts. really good and you're not on the converter hard till the bottom bulb. What it does is turns on the stop the second you hit the TB and is set to come on when the bottom bulb comes on to whatever your chip is set at.

With my dads setup we shut it off .500 out and left it turned off (at 2500 RPM) for 1.3 seconds, this was when it was running 6.1X's in the 1/8..

The earlier you shut the car off the better for judging the other end. Takes the fun out of the wheelie but helps 60 ft. consistancy and seeing where you are in relation to the other guy, plus the sooner you shut off the higher the MPH you run out the other end.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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My opinion, it's a great class to start. I started in S/G and with a 3200 lb stock wheel well car I got my *** kicked every pass. There was no way I could even get close to a .400 lite. My 60' were too inconsistant with a 29 X 10 tire against the chassis cars. I was running 9.30, which was fine, it was the damn .405 lites everyone else was cutting. Go have fun, learn the ropes, and if possible, listen to the guys, IHRA is a better place to have fun & learn. Plus they have more nationals & no points.
Good luck.

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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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I noticed that the rules say:
It is reserved for full-bodied production vehicles, including sports cars, vans, and panel trucks with full fenders, hoods, grilles, tops, windshields, and functional doors.

Would you think removing my stock grill and filling in the holes would make my car not comply with the rules?
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Old May 9, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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I too considered this class but each one of the divisionals this year conflict with something else I am racing.

NHRA recently reduced Super Street to a few National events but it is still contested at all divisionals.

It is an all run field
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
I noticed that the rules say:
It is reserved for full-bodied production vehicles, including sports cars, vans, and panel trucks with full fenders, hoods, grilles, tops, windshields, and functional doors.

Would you think removing my stock grill and filling in the holes would make my car not comply with the rules?
You would be fine, they're not strict like NMCA and other street classes. Just basically they don't want completely chopped up and nothing close to stock looking cars.

I've seen some kind of Jaguar that had a flip up body but functional doors that was allowed to run (had a T-56 and 632... It was crazy, didn't run fast though because the clutch was screwed up).
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Super Chevy Shows MIGHT also run this class, I can't remember. Make sure you have a license, if it's required and make sure your car is REAL LEGAL for inspection.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Removing the grille is okay.

A license is not needed (except your regular drivier's license) unless your car will go faster than 135 mph (even on the stop) or quicker than 10.00.

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Is there anyway to find out which races are run in 8th mile and which are run quarter mile? do they run some of them 8th mile even if they are at a 1/4 mile track?
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Old May 22, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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They are always marked. Nhra is 1/4 mile. IHRA is both. We don't have much 1/8 mile stuff in NHRA. IHRA was 14 1/8 mile & 12 1/4 mile. I just checked DRM.

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