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Old 03-25-2012, 07:10 PM
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Gotcha, so with the amount of fuel that could get past the rings, AND the amount of blow by, add them together and the vacuum pump just wont keep up.

Gotcha.
Thanks Phil
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Two more questions on the topic.

Originally Posted by Phil99vette
With that being said, the amount of fuel a methanol motor injests, some will pass through the rings and get into the oil, thats why most guys say you need to change the oil every race day or burn the methanol out. The methanol does increase blow by and crankcase pressure. I have not seen a turbo/supercharged methanol combo run a vacuum pump in drag racing.
How do you burn the methanol out of the oil?

Do those combos not run a vacuum pump just because its a loosing battle, so to speak?
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Originally Posted by fknsmshn
Two more questions on the topic.



How do you burn the methanol out of the oil?

Do those combos not run a vacuum pump just because its a loosing battle, so to speak?
i would assume the idea is to evaporate the alky out of the oil
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You heat the oil til the alky has boiled out. Electric heater usually
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Yep, Fenton hit the nail on the head, boil it out.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Yep, Fenton hit the nail on the head, boil it out.
evaporate... boil...

tomato..potato..
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Did you have the 118 on the gas set-up? Or just the 106?

Curious as to what the 118 is going to max out at.
Old 03-27-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Did you have the 118 on the gas set-up? Or just the 106?

Curious as to what the 118 is going to max out at.
We made a few hits with the 118 on gas but didn't really have any decent results. On my setup it was lazy out the hole.
Old 03-28-2012, 09:17 PM
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Looking forward to your next time out, feel free to run the entire quarter at least once so that that Paul Major record will finally fall hehe.
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So how did everything work out phil?
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Phil, when does your series start?
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Long story short, I hurt the rings last year, didn't have enough fuel in the tuneup once we changed over to the new motor. It ran lean on the 1st hit, motor ran strong, no weird noises, pulled the plugs, they were fine. Figured all was ok eventhought the EGTs got a touch hot. When I fired the motor on methanol it just didnt sound like it was running perfect so did a compression test and found 3 cylinders were low. Pulled the cylinder head to see I burned the very tip of the back edge on the exhaust valve relief on number 4. Pulled the 3 that were low and the top rings were fatigued from the heat and lost their tension. So I got a new set of rings and have had the pistons checked, replacing 2 just to be on the safe side. Hopefully should have it back together in the next few days. Waiting on 2 pistons from diamond and a set of head gaskets.
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what you doing with the old vacuum pump?
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Originally Posted by JAX04
what you doing with the old vacuum pump?
bump... updates?
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Sorry sold it.
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Originally Posted by phil99vette
sorry sold it.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Sorry sold it.
That freaked me out for a second until I re-read the last couple post!

Sean
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Originally Posted by Broke EF
That freaked me out for a second until I re-read the last couple post!

Sean

Me too!

Dammit Phil hurry up!
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Me too!

Dammit Phil hurry up!
You have no idea, I started to tear up some! lol. Phil what all have you changed so far? I know Methanol but from the 408/S95 to know you have changed the car a lot and I have gotten lost lol.
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Originally Posted by TheLS1Lover
You have no idea, I started to tear up some! lol. Phil what all have you changed so far? I know Methanol but from the 408/S95 to know you have changed the car a lot and I have gotten lost lol.
Methanol, 450", canted valve heads, 118, and its light.


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