408SSA3

2002 SS

Engine:
Iron 408ci
Stock L92's W L76 Car Intake NW 90mm TB
248/258 .647/.647 113+3
Comp 921 springs
TSP Push Rod's
LS7 Lifters
Comp Double Roller Timing Chain
Melling Oil Pump
Power Bond 25% Under Drive
Meziere Electric Water Pump Street Version

Exhaust:
Elderbrock LT's ORY Borla Xr1 Race Muffler

Fuel:
42lb injectors
Fast Fuel Rails
255 in tank pump with hot wire kit

Trans:
TH 350
JW Ultra Bell
Transbrake
Fuddle 3500
Yank trans mount
mad man dip stick

Rear:
Moser 9"
31 spline axles
3:89 gear
Spool

Suspension:
UMI Panhard Rod ADJ
UMI Sub Frame Conectors
UMI Torque Arm ADJ
BMR LCA's ADJ
PA Racing K-member
PA Uper and Lower A-arms
QA1 "R" Front Struts
Air Bag Pass Side

Wheel/Tires:
Weld ProStar's 15x10 rears w 325-50-r15 MT Radials, 15x3 fronts

Weight Reduction:
No HVAC
No Front Bumper Support
No Washer Fluid Tank
No Smog Pump
No Front Sway Bar
Rear Seat Delete

What do you think ? I dont have any dyno numbers yet but the car feel's really good.

Krazy98Z28

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10.20s

Matt D

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Not with that converter he won't. You need AT LEAST a 5000 stall in that th350. I would like to see you in an ATI 8" 5500 stall converter.

Pro Stock John

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So maybe 3600 raceweight making 475RWHP with a stroker power band...

10.8@124 with a weak 60 ft with that small converter.

mike c.

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Go to a track and find out.

408SSA3

Thank's for your input guy's i think i might try a 8" 4500 stall and switch a set of 1 7/8th kooks try and pick up a few hp

I might send my fuddle back a get it restalled what would you guy's think about that or should i just sell the one i got and buy a new one ?

Davey J

I agree you will leave like a dog with that converter

get an 8 inch race converter

RAGENZ28

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Simple fix = Add *N I T R O U S*

Adding more converter will help on the motor but if you built this for a fast street car you race at the track it will suck *** to drive on the street.

We cruise around in our nova once in a while and it has a 6,000 stall with a power glide, granted it makes almost 800 hp N/A, but still it is just impractical driving on the street.

If you would possibly spray nitrous leave the converter, if you want a happy medium 4,500 is good I had a 4,500in my old pile 377 sbc on nitrous and it went 1.30 on the bottle, all out motor consider 5,500.

Matt D

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Even if he sprays a 300 shot on top of that, it will still be a dog with a little 3500 in a th350. If it was a 4l60e, he would be able to get by with the 3500, but with a th350 it is geared differently. I would do a 8" 5500 from ATI if he plans on staying on motor, or a 9" 4500 if he plans on spraying it. Between my car and ONEBADWS6's car, we have tried every combo out there and we know what works.

Pro Stock John

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I'd run it first, you have a lot of stuff you can mess with right now. I wouldn't touch the headers. You can hit the track and try messing with shift points for example. Is the car dynoed tuned? If so you then try different shift points and see what mph you run. If you want a stronger NA converter you can maybe have yours redone or get a different one. Like my current Fuddle 8" is on the edge for NA and nitrous... Only went 1.48 on motor and a more motor focused converter should get me into the mid/hi 1.3's. The spray will be limited to a 100-150 shot and probably using a two step to launch it on spray since otherwise the converter might flash to 6 grand on the gas.

s346k

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11.0 @ 124. that car needs a 5,500 converter and single plane gmpp carb intake. i bet you'd pick up at least .5 and 5 mph over your current setup.

ls1builderss

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MORE CONVERTER!!! Something around 5500 should get about a 10.6-10.8 et

408SSA3

I sent my Converter back to fuddle i talked to John and with my car weight around 3200 with me in it and me spraying a 200 shot sometimes he thought a 4200 stall would do the trick on motor and spray i should have the stall back in a few week's i'll post up some times after march 16th im going to clay city ky for some track time.

anymore input with new info for just on motor 4200 stall ?


Thank's 408ssa3

RAGENZ28

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It'll go faster on the motor with more converter, I'm not sure what you're looking for as far as info, I ran mid 10's on motor with a 4500 stall, it would have went faster on the motor with more converter and more gear, on the nitrous it worked fine, I put a 114.5" wheel base car on the bumper with that stall, 4,200 with a 200 shot should work fine I think on the nitrous, on the motor it will be slower than a 5,000+ stall.

Keep in mind which I don't recall anyone mentioning, the lower you activate nitrous the more toque it will make, yes your car will work better with a higher stall on the motor to keep it closer to the peak torque, but when you activate nitrous, that is your peak torque.

Adding 200 hp of nitrous at 4,200 is going to add a lot more torque than activating it at 5,500.

408SSA3

Well i put the car on the dyno last night and made 410hp and 386tq on motor and sparyed a 100 shot and car went 504hp and 47xtq. not to bad also the car weighs 3200lb's.

Im taking the car to a 1/4 track this weekend i'll post up the results.


Thank's 408ssa3

1QuickT-A

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thats exactly what I was thinking.. high 10s..

1QuickT-A

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Wow thats not good at all man.. You need to change some things around and get that combo working better!

Pro Stock John

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I dynoed 415rwhp na and 550rwhp 150 shot, went 10.92 on motor and 10.doh on spray. 60's were 1.48 and 1.38.