Paging Burkhart...
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Paging Burkhart... You guys should also make brackets to mount Kirkey's into 4th gens. I think maybe look into a bracket that has 3-4 boltable positions, or a slider. The former would be lower and cheaper.
That would be sweet. I'm ordering my Kirkeys tomorrow. If they came out with a bracket by the time I get around to instaling them I would definately buy it. Probably be much more demand and easier to fab than the bumber supports. Not that the bumper supports are a bad idea.
i wouldent mind one either...make it where we can drill our own holes or like said above 4 diff settings...but to save weight instead of a adjustable bar just make it where we would have to ubbolt the seat(not bracket) and simply move it foroward or back
i would LOVE a set of brackets to mount kirkeys to the stock location in an f-body, like john said, 3 or 4 locations (maybe make a bunch of people sit and get an average? or we could drill our own?) or sliders would be absolutely awesome....
i want to put kirkeys in with a roll bar and wont have the full cage to mount them to on the floor, but want to loose the weight
i want to put kirkeys in with a roll bar and wont have the full cage to mount them to on the floor, but want to loose the weight
It's a great idea. I used straight angle aluminum and it works great. Only problem with the kirkey's is the bottom isn't flat to the front. So you typically only get one bolt on each side to bolt it in and then the mount on the back to the cage. I would probably come up with something to bolt the front down before I sold one and was liable if something happened. But I say go for it. Sure would help a lot of guys out.
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OK, I heard that loud and clear.
A few issues.
You will get a lot of flex in the back of the seat without mounting to the cross bar of a roll bar or cage. It would not work at all in any impact. This is a giant safty issue.
Several mounting locations would mean that the cross bar mount would need to move.
Sliders and mounting to the cage is about impossible.
Most do not use the 2 front studs.
What if we had a system that used the back 2 studs and allowed you to set the seats where you needed them and still secure the back to the cross bar? Would you want the mount for the cross bar as well?
A few issues.
You will get a lot of flex in the back of the seat without mounting to the cross bar of a roll bar or cage. It would not work at all in any impact. This is a giant safty issue.
Several mounting locations would mean that the cross bar mount would need to move.
Sliders and mounting to the cage is about impossible.
Most do not use the 2 front studs.
What if we had a system that used the back 2 studs and allowed you to set the seats where you needed them and still secure the back to the cross bar? Would you want the mount for the cross bar as well?
OK, I heard that loud and clear.
A few issues.
You will get a lot of flex in the back of the seat without mounting to the cross bar of a roll bar or cage. It would not work at all in any impact. This is a giant safty issue.
Several mounting locations would mean that the cross bar mount would need to move.
Sliders and mounting to the cage is about impossible.
Most do not use the 2 front studs.
What if we had a system that used the back 2 studs and allowed you to set the seats where you needed them and still secure the back to the cross bar? Would you want the mount for the cross bar as well?
A few issues.
You will get a lot of flex in the back of the seat without mounting to the cross bar of a roll bar or cage. It would not work at all in any impact. This is a giant safty issue.
Several mounting locations would mean that the cross bar mount would need to move.
Sliders and mounting to the cage is about impossible.
Most do not use the 2 front studs.
What if we had a system that used the back 2 studs and allowed you to set the seats where you needed them and still secure the back to the cross bar? Would you want the mount for the cross bar as well?
If you guys came up with something to mount them to the floor, I would think about ditching what I have depending on cost, weight, and design.
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Mounting to the floor is pretty easy. For most of the cars we do it is just an L bracket welded to the seat bottom that goes over the rear 2 studs. We could do that as a bolt in and have bolt hole adjustments if wanted.
The real issue is that NO replacement seat will pass tech if it is not mounted to the cross bar.
The real issue is that NO replacement seat will pass tech if it is not mounted to the cross bar.
I was assuming the brackets would be for the back two studs and so you could adjust to where you have the seat great for you. Then getting the back brace welded. Just a little something to help save some people some time from having to fab one up themself.
i do plan on mounting to a crossbar, but what i was saying was that im only planning a 6 point bar, so i wont have the whole thing tied to the floor to mount the seats......
im also having the same problem with my current recaros, NO ONE makes a bracket for them that i can use so im stuck with the heavy factory brackets, and i still had to weld up some heavy steel to adapt them
im also having the same problem with my current recaros, NO ONE makes a bracket for them that i can use so im stuck with the heavy factory brackets, and i still had to weld up some heavy steel to adapt them
The mount I used is simple enough, but the time wasted drilling holes and adjusting the position through trial and error are why I would easily pay someone if I had it to do over again. Also, not everyone will be able to use the seats in the same position. I'm sure some of the shorter people would need the seat higher than you or I.