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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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I've read in the LNC-002 manual that due to the cut in spark and not fuel that it is not recommeded on cars equipped with catalytic converters.

I have a street car that passes emissions, so I have to run cats on my car...

But, only making a 5-6 track visits per year and knowing to only mat the throttle when both lanes are staged (so the time exposer would be minimal) is this something I really need to worry about?

Granted, I don't want to ruin a cat after the first track visit with this little device... but would that really happen?
Anyone?
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bracketracerZ28
I use the lingenfelter launch controller and it works great. My lights are much more consistent
What are you launching at? I am not too sure I like this. When I do a dry launch without the 2 step engaged, I lift the front front wheels and the car launches beautiful. My 60 foots are 1.67 +/- and my lights are between .500 and .590

With the 2 step activated, it is like the suspension never gets loaded like it should and it is a dog out of the hole. My 60 foot times are 1.75 +/- and it is very hard to cut a good light (.700 - .800 lights)

With my converter, I can set the 2 step to leave at 2700 rpm max. Anything more than that and the converter / brakes will not hold.

My 2 step is activated by a switch on the brake pedal. Thoughts?
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ATLSS
Anyone?
No expert, but I would think if you matted it when the yellow bulbs started coming down, you would be OK. Then again, it probably depends on size of injectors and set RPM. Stock injectors probably ok at any rpm. Big hogs , like the green tops, at 3000 rpm will probably **** too much fuel down the exhaust and cause some issues at some point and time.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by b.d.d.
What are you launching at? I am not too sure I like this. When I do a dry launch without the 2 step engaged, I lift the front front wheels and the car launches beautiful. My 60 foots are 1.67 +/- and my lights are between .500 and .590

With the 2 step activated, it is like the suspension never gets loaded like it should and it is a dog out of the hole. My 60 foot times are 1.75 +/- and it is very hard to cut a good light (.700 - .800 lights)

With my converter, I can set the 2 step to leave at 2700 rpm max. Anything more than that and the converter / brakes will not hold.

My 2 step is activated by a switch on the brake pedal. Thoughts?
Tryed mine for the first time last week with the same results.. Blew the tires off.. I normally leave at 5.5K before the two step and 60' in the mid 1.5s.. So I started at 5.1K blew the tires off to a 1.79 60' and worked my way down.. 4.7k blew the tires off to a 1.63 60'.. and 4.3K bogged a little to a 1.66 60'.. I think 4.5k on my next track day will yeld better results.. But for right now its looking like this is going to be great for bracket racing and not for all out ETs..

Track prep was good that night too because I did a run without the two step and went 1.53 60'
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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well i dont know why it would not let a m6 car hook.
i rev to 5k hold it there and pop the clutch, and floor it
i dont see how this would cause a traction problem
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by My 04 Goat
Tryed mine for the first time last week with the same results.. Blew the tires off.. I normally leave at 5.5K before the two step and 60' in the mid 1.5s.. So I started at 5.1K blew the tires off to a 1.79 60' and worked my way down.. 4.7k blew the tires off to a 1.63 60'.. and 4.3K bogged a little to a 1.66 60'.. I think 4.5k on my next track day will yeld better results.. But for right now its looking like this is going to be great for bracket racing and not for all out ETs..

Track prep was good that night too because I did a run without the two step and went 1.53 60'
And this is on your M6 car, correct?
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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does this require a separate button to activate the 2step or can my transbrake button be used to activate the 2step?
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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you can hook it up to the TB
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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If you have a trans brake with a good stall, why do you think you need a 2 step? Seems the trans brake would be superior and a 2 step would do little, if any, to compliment what it is doing. Thoughts?
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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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SO how many of you M6 Guys are using the LNC-00x 2step as an aide to powershift?? How long (many miles/passes) have you been powershifting the car with the 2step as an aide?? And what have you broke if anything?? also powernumber would be great as well.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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i bought a lnc 001 but never got to use it because i sold my car. tested it out once and sounded kick ***.

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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 06X6spdGTO
SO how many of you M6 Guys are using the LNC-00x 2step as an aide to powershift?? How long (many miles/passes) have you been powershifting the car with the 2step as an aide?? And what have you broke if anything?? also powernumber would be great as well.
mine is just hooked up to my clutch switch and works great cuz if i miss a shift i wont spin to high and if you shift fast you will never hit it when shifting. I have alot of passes on mine and love it.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Well i have my 2step installed and with it set a 4200rpm i noticed that it causes my car to make a terrible pop when reved anything higher than 5500k and shifted to the next gear. But with the unit shut off i dont get any pop at all.

Is this popping bad for my motor?? What can be hurt??
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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is the unit turning off after you launch?
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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its wired through the clutch depress Safety switch so everytime i shift the unit reactivates.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by b.d.d.
If you have a trans brake with a good stall, why do you think you need a 2 step? Seems the trans brake would be superior and a 2 step would do little, if any, to compliment what it is doing. Thoughts?
Because leaving against the brake alone with a high stall converter makes a ton of heat for one.

And if you have a turbo/blower the stall keeps going up as the turbo spools and boost from the blower builds. Once you get to a point and go past where the highest torque multiplication point is you will actually run slower - that applies to high stalled N/A cars as well.

My car foot braking from 1000rpm, 1.35-1.40 60 foots.

Trans brake with no two step WOT (around 5500RPM), 1.45-1.50 60 foots.

Trans brake with 2 step at 2700rpm, 1.30-1.35 60 foots.


You results will vary depending on the converter/engine combo of course. If I had a tighter converter then the two step may not yield me the same results, but if I had a tighter converter the car wouldnt run as well off the footbrake. Its just another tuning aid, makes less heat and is pretty much a must have for a turbo car.

As easy as these are to install its almost silly NOT to have one if you have a trans brake and are looking for a little more tunability off the line. 60 foots are everything for a low power guy like myself
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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As KP mentioned it is a great tuning aid.

My car produces anywhere from low to mid 1.4's on the foot brake at a 3,000 RPM launch. On the trans brake set at 2,700 RPM with the loud pedal to the floor the car produced three 1.47's back to back the last time out!

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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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anyone have any idea with the popping question i asked earlier??? (M6 Car)
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Any issue with running it off of say a 5k rpm launch setting with out using the secondary? By this I mean what if I were to install one off the clutch swith but just use it for launching at say 5k. What would happen when I power/speed shift wot at 7k? Would this hurt anything or would I need to use the secondary at a rpm limit of 7500?? Thanks in advance.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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How dose the car shift (normal lifting, and WOT shifting) with the 2step kicking in,for you guys?
I heard it helps shifting?, are you guys finding that?
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