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Old 03-20-2008, 09:43 PM
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Default Quarter panel is deformed, caused by torque?

I bought a roller that was supposedly the fastest camaro in the north of the state (I guess around '06).
It has some of the lightening mods, had a nitrous set up, can tell a stock rear was put back in it.
A4 car.
The passenger side rear quarter has some wierd deformation to it. There is no paint damage at all. It's mostly in front of and above the wheel.
I can try to get pics soon.
Does it sound like what people talk about when they say the rear quarters buckle?
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Bad body work??????????????
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Originally Posted by MOSTDELUXE
Bad body work??????????????
No. I can tell it's never been painted, you can see inside because the spare isn't there, no signs of filler, dent pulling etc.
I'll try to get pics up tomorrow.

I've heard under extreme torque the quarters can buckle on these cars, this is what I imagine it would look like. It looks like someone took the 1/4 off and twisted the piece between the tire and door and put it back on. But there is no way it's been off or painted.
Anyone have pics of a buckled 1/4?
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is it just above the side of the fender, were a other car door would hit?

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I have the same thing on my car. It is from the torque. Both of my rear quarters have a wave kind of to them. Just part of racing these cars with the wheels in the air and running fast.

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Mine just has some "dimples" that look like minor door dings on top of the quarter, near where the hatch, quarter, and sail panel meet. They are symetrical to both sides. I'm pretty sure that is caused by body flex before the SFC's and the 6 pt were installed.
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My car had the waves on top of the quarters before it was ever even drag raced, hasnt really gotten any worse over the years. My old camaro has been raced for for 5 years straight, 2 of them years running mid 10s with no SFCs, and doesnt have them though so I'm sure some cars are just more stressed in that area than others from day one.
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Originally Posted by Harley-Davidson88
Mine just has some "dimples" that look like minor door dings on top of the quarter, near where the hatch, quarter, and sail panel meet. They are symetrical to both sides. I'm pretty sure that is caused by body flex before the SFC's and the 6 pt were installed.
Thats the same thing that my SS has and it's ran 13 flat at best, they sure weren't there when I got the car either.

Heres a pic of the buckle on the roller I just bought (not my SS), I'm going to put up full sized pics on my site by tomorrow.

BTW I fixed the front fenders today, bent over flanges, straightend them out.

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whoa, now I've iever seen one of these cars to that. that looks like some type of accident damage, even the really fast ones that are in the bottom 8's and into the 7's aren't doing that.


I can't even imagine how many runs would have to been made with that car, and at what speed to get that to happen.

If they're telling you that's from racing it, I'm throwing up the BS flag
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
that looks like some type of accident damage
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
whoa, now I've iever seen one of these cars to that. that looks like some type of accident damage, even the really fast ones that are in the bottom 8's and into the 7's aren't doing that.


I can't even imagine how many runs would have to been made with that car, and at what speed to get that to happen.

If they're telling you that's from racing it, I'm throwing up the BS flag
No they told me their shop rack bumped up against it which is total BS because this is a very smooth bend. And thats the thing it looks like a bend, not a dent.
Now when I first went to look at the car it was up about 30" on a rolling set up. The guy gave me a creeper and a light and went to do something else.

It has some unknown tubular SFC's on it, looks like they been there a while, welds look weak but none broken. I could swear though the one on that side looks bent upwards but it's hard to say.

When I was under it there was no sign of damage, like all the joints with factory undercoating were not upset. I've seen mild wrecks that crack the under coating.

The top of the 1/4 is straight. One thing I don't like is the hatch sits up high on that side too in the very back and I tried an hour or so to adjust it down with no luck, it sits up less than a 1/4" higher than the quarter panel.

Again there is no seam sealer, spot weld joint, nothing looks disturbed.

They did say it was THE fastest street car in N Texas a few years ago. Said it would go 6 seconds in the 1/8th, it did have a nitrous set up in it, BUT it had no signs of ever having a cage or anything (which I'm assuming is required to go that fast).
The calipers are all ground down i guess for bigger wheels.

It also looks like the whole front and rear suspension was maybe put back to stock at some point. It's been off.
Yet they did a real good job of getting it back to stock.

Sorry for the long post but thats everything I can think of right now.

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Here is the SFC pic on that side, not the most revealing and it's on the ground now.
In editing this pic I realized it doesn't look like these SFC's weld to the LCA mount near the bolt, it looks like they weld right before it.
I need to look at that tomorrow. If they welded to the frame in front of the LCA bolt that may be a problem right?
But would it cause this?

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Originally Posted by 9000th01ss

The calipers are all ground down i guess for bigger wheels.
The calipers were ground to fit prostars/draglites.
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That almost looks like a tire came off, was this car a six speed?


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Are the fender lips rolled? Looks like it was damaged, maybe a tire hit it. Its not from torque.

6 seconds in the 1/8 is far from being the fastest street car in N Texas.
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yeah, it would have to be closer to 6 seconds in the 1/4 to make claim to that.
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The car was an automatic, not sure which. Was told it had a huge converter like 4500.
The wheel lips are not rolled, in fact the wheel lips don't look to be hit by a tire or repainted.
The inner wheel well did have some hit marks I assumed from clearancing for the tires.

It's in storage now and I'm going to look at it again today.
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Originally Posted by 9000th01ss
The car was an automatic, not sure which. Was told it had a huge converter like 4500.
The wheel lips are not rolled, in fact the wheel lips don't look to be hit by a tire or repainted.
The inner wheel well did have some hit marks I assumed from clearancing for the tires.

It's in storage now and I'm going to look at it again today.

So its an F body roller with mostly stock parts? What is the upside to this deal? Is the car free or something?

Sounds like a fishy deal to me.
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Originally Posted by Coach 02 A3 Z/28
I have the same thing on my car. It is from the torque. Both of my rear quarters have a wave kind of to them. Just part of racing these cars with the wheels in the air and running fast.

Coach
exactly....I have them also.
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i have them also. most of the cars that have them probably had a lot of weight on the rear of the car's rear frame rails at some point.


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