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Old 05-01-2008 | 08:55 AM
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Here's a simple point I don't think I saw anyone mention, but I skimmed. I saw your thread where you say you trashed the axles and differential. You even mentioned it in this thread. Don't you think that has something to do with your crappy 60ft times? I do... Do you know what specific pass you destroyed the differential? You mentioned in the other thread you think you damaged it, but wasn't sure
Another good point..... could definitely had something to do with it..... I think the tire will solve the problem and by going back to original susp setup..
Old 05-01-2008 | 09:06 AM
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Looked like you bogged in shootout vid #2.

You should pm folks like smokin01ta and torkman15, those guys have gone like 10.1 and 10.3 respectively with T56 cars on motor.

I read that it's hard to get a stick car to leave good on drag radials, even 325's... I'm guessing a 2 step would be handy to make the car consistent.
Old 05-01-2008 | 09:11 AM
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You guys have me all freaked out now. I have way less suspension parts than you, and I'm running 325's this year.
Old 05-01-2008 | 09:14 AM
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I've gone 1.35 on 325's in the turbo car, only left at 3600 off the 2 step. Madman gave me some pointers over the phone, but basically not to run too low a tire pressure and try to run the rear shocks on the firm side so that the car won't load and then unload the suspension. I have a 10.1 vid that shows me getting wheel hop, I then made two changes came back around and went that 1.35 on the 9.4 pass.
Old 05-01-2008 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by roadtrip120
Everyone at the track said the tires work great on automatic mustangs but not six speed camaro's.

Taner B. even said to get rid of them, he knows his stuff 9.0 at 150+mph
mustang, camaro - it doesnt matter. the automatic with big converter is the big key but i have hit my 325 radials off a transbrake at 4000+ rpms on nitrous and gone 1.3 60' as well (small cam only with 150 shot).

if you want to listen to tanner, then copy his tire combo. run a slick at the track.
Old 05-01-2008 | 10:00 AM
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I've tried them all. You need to run a full slick and I've found my car like W's best. I could leave at 6200 rpms on a 2 step with the pedal on the wood..then drop the hammer on it. Steady mid 1.4x 60s with a best of 1.42. Hopefully with the new full MADMAN setup I will see mid 1.3s leaving at 7000. But it is consistant and the other 6 speed guys in my area agree(smokino1ta, Futral, Jason99ta) agree that you need more tire. We all picked up 60' by going from a 28x10.5 to a 28x10.5W. Your busted posi could have had allot to do with it also but that tire will not work very well on a 6 speed car. They don't recover well once they break loose. They are great on autos but our cars they just can't handle the initial hit. Go full slick, spool, and launch at 6 grand plus..you will love it.
Old 05-01-2008 | 10:19 AM
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Man that thing is a drag only car...put slicks on the plucker.

I agree with what others have said, there is a drag radial class around here with leaf spring cars running 5.60s in the 1/8th on 275/60/15 MTs.

Honestly I ditched my 275/50 MT DR because I couldnt get them to hook, running 28/10.5 ET Drags now with 1.64s on motor with a 0*pinion. What really strikes me as unusual is that you twist a 31spline axle with only 1.7s. Like alot of people have, I was running low 1.7s on a stock 10bolt with no problems. Possibly with your power level hitting that heavy of a tire could have been the culprit. Try a smaller tire, if that doesnt work Id look into having a suspension shop set it up for you.

Now...I have a fully adjustable suspension (didnt when I had the DRs) Ive thought about going back to the DRs and just toying with the angles till I can get it to bite.
Old 05-01-2008 | 10:58 AM
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sweet that sounds?like a setup.

the posi was one tire fire on the very first burn out, after the third run I double clutched it on the return road and it left two big black marks, after that it seamed to be working fine, till after the races when I was turning left it started poping real loud over my open exhaust. Not sure when it swisted the axle or trashed the posi but the tires seamed like part of the problem.

thanks for all the advice, moser gets my axles today so maybe they will help me out on the 35 splines, trutrac is getting traded for a spool.

I'll report back after the next outting to the track.

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Old 05-01-2008 | 11:11 AM
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I've never seen a stick car work good with drag radials. I would think a stiff wall slick would work better with your setup. Try a 28x10.5s
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Well if your posi was dying, you might have been getting some early stage one tire fire though both wheels would be spinning, but one more than the other.

I will respectfully say that the 28W are great, but eleventy billion of heads up classes don't allow them so I would just stay with the stiff side wall 28x10.5 ET Drags. But I forgot about Tim H, he's clearly another guy you need to talk to.
Old 05-01-2008 | 12:00 PM
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You guys have me all freaked out now. I have way less suspension parts than you, and I'm running 325's this year
Don't get all freaked out JMill, you have a TH350... This discussion doesn't apply to Th350/400 guys.... We'll hook fine on any drag radial cause of shock loads are way less than stick guys.....
Old 05-01-2008 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

I will respectfully say that the 28W are great, but eleventy billion of heads up classes don't allow them so I would just stay with the stiff side wall 28x10.5 ET Drags. But I forgot about Tim H, he's clearly another guy you need to talk to.
thats a stupid rule..if I got to shift give me more tire.

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Old 05-01-2008 | 07:43 PM
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Been there!
Get a true Slick!
With the awesome parts you have, you should be cutting some low 60's
Try a MT 28x10.5S with 4.56 gears, that is the trick.
Old 05-02-2008 | 01:30 AM
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Fastest car in the world on 275 DR's right here http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D...SCA_159207.htm .

DR's can be made to work . I bet there will be some faster times this year on DR's as well, just amazing.
Old 05-02-2008 | 03:53 AM
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First off, go to a slick with your setup, no reason not to do so. Slicks are great band aids also for a track that isn't perfect and/or suspension not being dialed in correctly.

Second, if you watch you the 2nd video you can see the supsension UNLOAD less than 10 feet out.

Radials aren't great on stick cars, but still no reason that car shouldn't go AT LEAST a 1.6-1.7 on the radials, especially with the 325/50/15.

Also...."Lower Control Arm Angle- lowest bolt hole, running up hill towards body" Try moving that up a hole, I think you might have it dialed in with too much angle since the car sits pretty high in the back with the 28's.



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