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Old 09-18-2008, 05:14 PM
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Car looks bitch'n KP.
Old 09-18-2008, 08:12 PM
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[QUOTE=kp;10132209]if you run a 30" tire then you have to mini-tub it I guess, I had some 29.5s on mine and it looked pretty dorky with the back so high to clear them. But IMO if you mini tub may as well really back half it and put some 14x32s under it if you want consistency people have ran 1.5 seconds faster than me on a 10.5x28 so I got a ways to go before I worry about bigger tires.

I have someone that keeps telling me to back 1/2 it. I dunno if I can bring myself to do that though LOL.

I do that, and IMO, it'w WAY too slow to justify that type of stuff.

I have alot of stuff I'd like to do, but am gonan try to get the things done that will make a bigger impact first. Doing anything with the back of the car, at this point isn't really needed. Just stuff I wanna do.

Beadlocks though, those are just too cool looking. Plus I like the idea of being able to change the tires myself without a machine, and no more worrying about a tire monkey bending the bogarts... again
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Dont feel bad about the bent bogarts, I bent mine the first time I took a set of slicks off and I have been mounting tires for 30 years. Nothing a hammer and a couple 2x4 didnt fix though - them things are paper thin on the outer lip. But they are light..

Well my car is slow for a 10.5x28 stock suspension car I guess, I dont lose much sleep over it. If I wanted to be consistent and knock a few hundred lbs of the car and not worry about hooking up on crappy tracks I'd back half it. My car has no real purpose except to have some fun with, I'm not too concerned if other people think if its too slow for big tires - I'm just having fun with it..

I think it looks fine as it is though, I know if I cut the back end out of it to back half or mini tub it I'd never put it back together
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You're slow? What about a guy that's over a 1/2 second slower then you LOL... I must be really slow

I hear ya, the back 1/2 is alot of work, and I'm kinda in the same boat, I partake in that project, it may never roll out of the garage on it's own 4 wheels again LOL
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
You're slow? What about a guy that's over a 1/2 second slower then you LOL... I must be really slow

I hear ya, the back 1/2 is alot of work, and I'm kinda in the same boat, I partake in that project, it may never roll out of the garage on it's own 4 wheels again LOL
Its all relative, to some my car is fast for what it is and to some others its slow. If I worried about what others think I'd have a fox mustang like 99.9% of the people around here.

Sometimes I wish I would have just left the 8.50 cage in it, the 25.5 is very nicely done but some people think because its there it should run in the 7s. Same with the beadlocks I'm sure

I'm to the point where I just dont have any enthusiasm, its a slippery slope with race cars. Unless you go faster every time you go out it gets very boring very quickly, and once you pass a certain ET range the costs and maintenance go up exponentially to go quicker. I'm at that point where it wont take much to strip the car and part it out, came pretty close just changing wheels so I know if I take a plasma cutter to the rear I'll most likely never put it back together.
Old 09-19-2008, 07:33 PM
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I hear ya. every time I go a squeak a little bit more out of it (went 9.55 @141.5 today) @ a track that's known to be a tenth or 2 off, so I'm pretty happy at this point as I am just about at the speed that I need to be to run teh index class I wanted to run.

I figure until I can cut a .020 lite or better every run and have the car repeat within .05 give or take every run, I still have work to do.

Now when I get to that point, it wil be time to go faster. Well, it's always the goal to go faster, but until I can do those 2 things I feel there'smore to be gained on my end as a driver/tuner.

I'm getting there though, had 2 .047, one .051 and one .032 light today, and eh car went a .59, a .73, a .55 and a .62 today, so it's getting there, and that's me trying something every run.
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I just had two new best 60 foots today, 1.234 and 1.241, finally got a day that wasnt 95 degrees out, it was 83 at a 1500' elevation track but I'll take it.

I was adjusting a few suspension things all day and it paid off on the last two passes finally, ran a 9.13 @ 131 was letting off at 800' or so, its really not a 1/4 mile track (very short) but they run street cars in the 1/4 and they just didnt change the clocks back to 1/8 mile. Goes to show how much that 60 foot helps on the big end when you can slam on the brakes at 900' and still run a 9.13.

But I ran a 5.74 and 5.75 1/8 mile at 3600' DA and I cant complain about that. Not sure if the wheels had anything to do with it

http://lsx.streetfire.net/video/5ea2...1d00198ae6.htm

Whenever the video works there it is, looking forward to some good weather. Plus I'm going to experiment with a little nitrous once I get the suspension straightened back out.
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I bet the beadlocks did help. That's some seriously good 60 foot times right there. I can only hope to someday get my car to leave with #'s like that. ****, if I couls get it to leave that hard, I'd be looking at bottom 9.3's at least.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I bet the beadlocks did help. That's some seriously good 60 foot times right there. I can only hope to someday get my car to leave with #'s like that. ****, if I couls get it to leave that hard, I'd be looking at bottom 9.3's at least.
I think they helped the car look cool

I'll be happy when I get off my *** to unload the car and the rear tires arent flat and the calipers didnt rub the wheel lol.

While 60 foots arent everything they are nice for cars like mine that dont make a ton of power, downside is all the ET eggs are in the 60 foot basket..

Is it just me or is the video not working?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/L...3-b7cae2c7a81b

Another try..

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2nd one works

car seems to be veering off to the left a bit

launch at 1:07 was pretty saweet!
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Originally Posted by SScam68
2nd one works

car seems to be veering off to the left a bit

launch at 1:07 was pretty saweet!
Sometimes left, sometimes right..

Part of the deal with a small tire car on not very well prepped tracks, plus its hard to get lined up straight sitting low in the car with no help.

It goes where its pointed usually, and rather quickly
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Last link works.

Here's a link to the slowest run I had on Friday. Unfortunately it was the only run we got on video, but ya can see how the car is leaving. I think it's just gonna take more power to get it to leave any harder, this is still on the 150 shot.

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t...current=JL.flv
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nice car! nice wheels!
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Last link works.

Here's a link to the slowest run I had on Friday. Unfortunately it was the only run we got on video, but ya can see how the car is leaving. I think it's just gonna take more power to get it to leave any harder, this is still on the 150 shot.

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t...current=JL.flv
Thats just how mine leaves when I have it working the way I want, I'm not into the wheelstand thing at all. This is 1.26-1.27 60 foots and no drama off the line:

http://lsx.streetfire.net/video/1475...e2017b4207.htm
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Yeah, I did the wheelstand thing this spring, I'm all done with that LOL.

I think that more power is what it's gonna take to 60 foot any faster. I think there may be a DP going on before the next outing, if that's the case instead of hitting it with 150 I'll probably hit it with 240..... that coming in right off the brake is either gonna blow the tires off, make it want to go to the moon again like this past spring, or 60 foot alot closer to the times you're seeing.

What kind of power are you coming out of the hole with? I know I'm at about 460 to the tires n/a, so figure that + 150 rw hit which probably puts it at about 620 rw give or take
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I have no idea on power really, its only at 3-4psi of boost when I let off the brake but it ramps up quick. I have the 2 step at 26-3000rpm usually. The 346 made about 700rw but with a loose converter its pretty hard to tell how much it made at lower rpm.
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Looks good Kevin,I like the bead locks.



P.S. Your garage is a mess.lol
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Originally Posted by kp
I have no idea on power really, its only at 3-4psi of boost when I let off the brake but it ramps up quick. I have the 2 step at 26-3000rpm usually. The 346 made about 700rw but with a loose converter its pretty hard to tell how much it made at lower rpm.
I figured that was the case... be nice to knwo though, just for comparison sake. I know at 7000 you've got to be making over 1000 at the crank which is a good 250 to 300 more then I'm at... it simply has to to run the times you're seeing.
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Originally Posted by Hot Copper Z
Looks good Kevin,I like the bead locks.



P.S. Your garage is a mess.lol
More my kids junk then mine

Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I figured that was the case... be nice to knwo though, just for comparison sake. I know at 7000 you've got to be making over 1000 at the crank which is a good 250 to 300 more then I'm at... it simply has to to run the times you're seeing.
By the amount of fuel mine uses I would say 1000hp at the crank is around where its at, but my car certainly isnt dynojet friendly..
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I am sure it's not. I've never dynoed my car on teh juice, I don't think it's really a good idea.

Can't really get any dyno to produce the same loads the car sees anyway, so there's way more in tuning @ the track IMO. Reading plugs = always the best route.




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