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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1x2
What elevation are you at? If you do a search you will find plenty of other people who found the same thing.
Pretty much sea level around here. I don't need to search, I know what is proven to work for me. Again, nice numbers.

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
22º is still pretty low, even for a stock LS6. We've tested them literally hundreds of times on the dyno. Have you tried some racegas to see if it's true knock?
I have not tried racegas. I've scanned hours and hours of data on the car with multiple tanks on 93 octane. The most it has ever let me run with 0* KR was 24*. Let the motor get heat soaked a little and KR is picked up on another pass.

It doesn't make anymore power with more timing. The knock sensors do their job and bring it down to 22-24* timing when I bump it up so I do not hear any knock. AFR is 13.0:1. I am sure I could run more if I fattened it up, but I would not make the same power.

What kind of AFR and timing are you seeing on LS6 cars?
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by VIPRETR2
Pretty much sea level around here. I don't need to search, I know what is proven to work for me. Again, nice numbers.

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Ok. Awesome. Not looking to get into a pissing match here. It is what it is.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1x2
Ok. Awesome. Not looking to get into a pissing match here. It is what it is.
I'm not trying to tell you what is best for your combo, I was just intrigued about the difference. Sorry if it came across as bashing or something

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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good #s..
my car doesn't like anymore than 22* either,but it's also a heavy pig...
i wonder if the Fast would have done a little better with a standrd split cam?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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My old Bolt on 2002 Z06 didn't like alot of timing either. I think it was around ~ 24 degrees. Nice numbers.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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22 degrees is fine and within the typical 243 timing range. More efficient heads don't need lots of timing. Tests by myself and others have proven this many times.

Your numbers are similar to mine and I'm also not sure the Fast92 is really beneficial with our setups. I was trying to get an LS6 intake to test with but it seems more trouble than it's worth right now.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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LS6 here... cam only, 26-28 degrees.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan L
LS6 here... cam only, 26-28 degrees.
Did you tune it yourself?
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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No, Mike Norris in Florida did the tune. I remember he said that the car didn't like alot of extra timing, but HP Tuners shows it was still bumped 4-7 degrees at the top end (stock timing is about 22 degrees.)
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