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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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I finished this project almost 2 years ago and I so burnt out with cars I haven't really played with this car since I finished it. I'm now starting to get into it again, and was wondering what the top engine builders are getting out of hydraulic cam street engines now days. Mine after handing making an intake and completly working these L92 heads made 701 flywheel and 592.6 rwhp. tune by Andy at Dyno Tune. Thanks
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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damm any more specs? 700 fwhp is bad *** out of a 427
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trail 70
I finished this project almost 2 years ago and I so burnt out with cars I haven't really played with this car since I finished it. I'm now starting to get into it again, and was wondering what the top engine builders are getting out of hydraulic cam street engines now days. Mine after handing making an intake and completly working these L92 heads made 701 flywheel and 592.6 rwhp. tune by Andy at Dyno Tune. Thanks
So what's this intake your using..........

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Thats very impressive! Can you give us some specs? I have seen dyno graphs of mid 650's from 418-427 engines with l92 heads but never 700 at the flywheel.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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need more info, bore x stroke, exhaust and headers, maniflod and TB.

and cam specs
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That is crazy power! Can you post up the graph? What car is that running in?
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6.0 iron block, oversized engine, billet everything, intake was made by TPIS and lower half. Brian from Hi-tech reworked the heads, intake and cam. This was about an on and off 2 year project with 3 differnet heads used, 8 cams and 4 intakes, with 50-60 engine dyno pulls. I'll see if I can find someone to scan the dyno graph.
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Originally Posted by Trail 70
I finished this project almost 2 years ago and I so burnt out with cars I haven't really played with this car since I finished it. I'm now starting to get into it again, and was wondering what the top engine builders are getting out of hydraulic cam street engines now days. Mine after handing making an intake and completly working these L92 heads made 701 flywheel and 592.6 rwhp. tune by Andy at Dyno Tune. Thanks
I think the new V2 heads from AFR really show what your guys were trying to do with your L92's. The l92's are a great head stock but you have to remmeber that they were the prototype's of the LS7 head that failed what they were looking for at GM. All in the velocity and not always how hogged out and max airflow. I think your engine proved that once again. I applaud you for being a guinee pig because sometimes thats the only way we really learn anything at all.
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The 1.6 hp/cu in hyd roller cam, pump gas "wall" hasn't made much progress, the LS engine needs some "Cup" technology, like some canted valve street heads
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Originally Posted by Trail 70
6.0 iron block, oversized engine, billet everything, intake was made by TPIS and lower half. Brian from Hi-tech reworked the heads, intake and cam. This was about an on and off 2 year project with 3 differnet heads used, 8 cams and 4 intakes, with 50-60 engine dyno pulls. I'll see if I can find someone to scan the dyno graph.
You can't do that!!!!

You have all those combos and dyno graphs...that is f....g R&D!!!

You need to post all the graphs and combos/heads/cams/intakes....


Please!
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The 1.6 hp/cu in hyd roller cam, pump gas "wall" hasn't made much progress, the LS engine needs some "Cup" technology, like some canted valve street heads
speak for yourself Brian.We made 701 hp out of a 402 on pump gas and hyd roller-that comes out to 1.74 hp/cid
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
speak for yourself Brian.We made 701 hp out of a 402 on pump gas and hyd roller-that comes out to 1.74 hp/cid
Just curious on the setup and how radical it was. What did it make to the ground?

A legitimate 402 making that much power on true 93 octane is a little hard to believe unless it just had some crazy canted valve heads with a set of ITB's that were tuned to rev to 9K rpm.
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Originally Posted by LSxPwrDZ
Just curious on the setup and how radical it was. What did it make to the ground?

A legitimate 402 making that much power on true 93 octane is a little hard to believe unless it just had some crazy canted valve heads with a set of ITB's that were tuned to rev to 9K rpm.
I remember running across the build thread a few months back - https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...d-700-1hp.html

I just noticed you posted in that same thread!
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Originally Posted by LSxPwrDZ
Just curious on the setup and how radical it was. What did it make to the ground?

A legitimate 402 making that much power on true 93 octane is a little hard to believe unless it just had some crazy canted valve heads with a set of ITB's that were tuned to rev to 9K rpm.
I would have to agree with this statement.......
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
speak for yourself Brian.We made 701 hp out of a 402 on pump gas and hyd roller-that comes out to 1.74 hp/cid
Interesting, looks like the TFS heads are getting it done! I know in a PM you said the compression was well over 12-1, how high was it?

Are you still using TFS heads in your hyd roller combinations?

Is that the same ITB intake that made 710 on the 468?

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This is intresting thread

I wish it had more information

The incredable LS engine
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Originally Posted by LSxPwrDZ
Just curious on the setup and how radical it was. What did it make to the ground?

A legitimate 402 making that much power on true 93 octane is a little hard to believe unless it just had some crazy canted valve heads with a set of ITB's that were tuned to rev to 9K rpm.
have no doubt,this was a pretty maxxed out combination.Harrop itb setup on a set of out of the box TFS 235's.The itb allowed for alot more camshaft than you would normally run.Being free in the camshaft department allowed me to use alot more compression.


Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Interesting, looks like the TFS heads are getting it done! I know in a PM you said the compression was well over 12-1, how high was it?

Are you still using TFS heads in your hyd roller combinations?

Is that the same ITB intake that made 710 on the 468?

Brian-there is no doubt that the TFS 235's are great heads-we have proven them several times over.The compression was high enough to make 700hp in a 402.I still use some TFS heads-we recently used them on a 427 than made 650hp with a 230's cam and a FAST 92.

the itb was the same as used on the HKE 468.
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Sorry guys, I just picked up my 2011 GT500 that I have been driving around for the last couple of days. We filled up the heads and intake with epoxy to increase port velocity, but you have to be very carefull not to make the air become turbulent. This will kill power. I'll be honest it was amazing the difference this made in the engine, I have two blown cobra's and this engine pulls like my blower cars. It still made 490 rwtq. but with a 6 speed and 3:90 gears who cares!! The cam is LARGE.. duration 257 intake 264 exhaust
.664 lift intake .644 exhaust on a 114 lobe separation. With the solid torque arm and this cam, it's alittle large for daily driving but great for the weekends. Yes compression is 12/5 - 13 to1. Stock GM rockers, we did find some power difference in trying different valve job angles. Stock oil pan setup. I really think a dry sump would be worth 15-30 more hp. I have done a ton of work with this LS base engines and I really like the Trick flow heads, I built a 2000 SS for a guy with these 205 heads and loved them, but this was 2 years ago. What I took from all of this is yes you have to have a good flowing set of heads, but I'll take GREAT port velocity over HUGE flow heads any day. Peak power was 7100 rpm's
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Originally Posted by anthony soprano
I remember running across the build thread a few months back - https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...d-700-1hp.html

I just noticed you posted in that same thread!
Yeah I do remember that thread now haha.
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