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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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I was just curious to see what the other ls1 A4 drivers were landing at the rollers with full bolt ons, my car with just 1 7/8 headers and 3.73 gears got 328 rwhp, and have been told by many this is not the norm for an A4 car, i would love to hear any input. Thanks again!
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:43 PM
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My car 02 Z28 A4 W/2.73

Slp lid
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pacesetter longtubes, ory
magnaflow catback

it made 322/333 before my cam.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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The numbers seem good.
My 98 made 318hp/328tq with a Lid and 1 3/4" Longtubes/ORY.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:54 PM
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Just had my car dyno tuned, 2001 Z28 A4 with 3.73's and almost full bolt ons, made 347whp and 364wtq. I've seen full bolt on cars in the 350whp area.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 12:35 AM
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A friend of mine with his 2002 A4 ( SLP Lid, Pacesetter Headers, ORY, SLP LM1, SLP Underdrive Pulley ) put down 348 RWHP 361 RWTQ
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 12:54 AM
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 7th Darkness
My full bolt on...
What the hell have you done to it? Either that thing is touched by the hand of God himself, or that is one happy ******* dyno! My 2000 M6 with a healthy cam (232/238 .595/.595 110+4), LTs, dumped TDs, LS6 intake, ported MAF and TB, with a 12 bolt and 4.11s made 389/374...
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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Lol, this dyno reads low comapred to a local dyno and if you mean touched by the hand of god.. Bluecat my tuner, then yes.

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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:52 AM
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Yeah, you forgot to mention it's LS6 motor, with aftermarket roller rockers, worked heads and aftermarket cam... It's not a bolt ons anymore.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 7th Darkness
Lol, this dyno reads low comapred to a local dyno and if you mean touched by the hand of god.. Bluecat my tuner, then yes.

ENGINE:
1.8 Ratio Rockers | 25% UD Pulley | Patriot "Extreme" Dual Valve Springs

FUEL:
Black Mast Fuel Rails | 30lbs Injectors | Racetronix Fuel Kit

AIR:
85mm Professional Products Throttle Body | 85mm Ported Weiand Intake Manifold | SLP Lid With Cold Air Kit

EXHAUST:
Pacesetter Long Tubes | Custom True Dual Magnaflow Setup - 2.5" Pipe

DRIVETRAIN:
GRC 4l60e | YANK SS3200 | 3.90 Rear Gears

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Comp Cams Xtreme RPM 224/228 Duration .534/.537 Lift 112 LS

HEADS:
Ported & Polished 243's
Flowed On 4.025 Slider Plate / 3.900 Bore
.200: 153.6
.300: 223.1
.400: 265.7
.450: 290.4
.500: 311.0
.550: 322.0
.600: 328.3
Um yeah...I'd have to say that is NOT bolt-ons, and to be honest, with whats done to it thats not that impressive now that we got the full story. H/C should be making a good bit more than that...My car is only 20hp behind with stock 241s, stock rockers, no UD pulley, its a LS1, not LS6, and has a LS6 intake instead of a Weiand...

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Yeah, you forgot to mention it's LS6 motor, with aftermarket roller rockers, worked heads and aftermarket cam... It's not a bolt ons anymore.
I guess he needs to learn some reading comprehension I suppose...
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 7th Darkness
So if you port your throttle body.. it no longer becomes bolt on? Everything looks bolt on to me.
Porting TB is not as extensive/taxing as porting and polishing heads. Besides if you read what the OP stated, Max Bolt on rwhp for LS1 A4.

A cam/roller rockers/Dual springs automatically negate bolt on catergory.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 05:08 AM
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Not that impressive for whats done...? Its a stalled A4 with a small cam... you must not understand being a smartass... most of my car is bolt ons, and you saying the amount of work I have done??? What some porting, pulley and a LS6... watch out. Sorry if i consider my car bolt-on.

I was not trying to bloat or brag, I was just posting what I had done, and your the one that comes back with the "Ohh now that we know the whole story" Not like I was hiding it... its freaking posted in my garage.

My bad for offending you, ill take my 411rwhp and go **** my self and stab my self in the face with a soldering iron.

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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 05:55 AM
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i had short headers and the B1 cam and made only 329 rwhp as i remember.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 05:56 AM
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Most of the time auto owners go with a higher stall. And that will hurt you on the dyno. So IMO i wouldnt be worried about highest hp,but maybe track times.

7th darkness- Phils dyno is a heartbreaker but he does great work. I have hp tuners my self for personal use. And if i have had problems phil has always been more than happy to help me out with any problems.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 7th Darkness
Not that impressive for whats done...? Its a stalled A4 with a small cam... you must not understand being a smartass... most of my car is bolt ons, and you saying the amount of work I have done??? What some porting, pulley and a LS6... watch out. Sorry if i consider my car bolt-on.
It's just that "bolt on" means the motor never comes apart. Everything is a bolt on affair, heads, front cover, etc, can't have been removed. But after seeing the 411rwhp I don't think their was doubt in anyone's mind that it was cammed. Most full bolt on cars will never see the north side of 370rwhp unless some one was being purely calculating and methodical lol

Actually, I suppose you could port/blend the heads on the car, along with the intake/TB, then do true full bolt ons....that might be kind of dangerous, but you could at least stuff the ports and open them up I suppose without risking too much.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 06:29 AM
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Good info thus far! My car before the stall made 355 rwhp and was informed this is not the typical results my tuner usually sees, I sat and watched it happen. I know that not all rollers are created equal but the car does lay down some nice trap speeds even in horrible DA. Here in the Southern part of NC in July it was laying down 111's and 112's.
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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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When comparing LS1s, 01 and 02's tend to dyno a little higher than the earlier years.
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The most over used B.S. statement in the dyno section "...and my tuner says the dyno they use dyno's low compared others".
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and a H/C LS6 motor is not the same as a LS1 with "full bolt on's"..not even close

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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Maybe I have been misinformed since I know the 98-00 cars had a slightly larger cam and I figured with the ls6 intake they would be maybe 1-5 hp higher, guess I was wrong?
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Originally Posted by Average Joe
Maybe I have been misinformed since I know the 98-00 cars had a slightly larger cam and I figured with the ls6 intake they would be maybe 1-5 hp higher, guess I was wrong?
The 98-00 has the slightly larger cam and Im not sure if it would make a difference in power. The 01-02 have the LS6 intake's and the 241 heads which are slightly better than the 853 heads that come on the 98-00. The difference in the heads is probably 5ish rwhp im guessing. I thought I read that the 01-02 exhaust manifolds flow a are a little better than the 98-00 also. So this all adds up to more power for the 01-02's.
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