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Old 12-08-2011, 11:06 PM
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You're doing something wrong dude.....
I meant a whole week of evenings.... Not actually the whole week.
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How much power can you actually use on the street? Seems like a mild heads/cammed ls1 puts down 430 to the wheels. For the street I feel like that may even be over kill
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
How much power can you actually use on the street? Seems like a mild heads/cammed ls1 puts down 430 to the wheels. For the street I feel like that may even be over kill
You know what your right. Its something I have been thinking about. Dyno numbers are great but how much is useable. I started this thread to get input and some ideas as this project is at least 8 months down the road. I go back and forth a lot but Im still up in the air. When I looked at cost a good H/C/I isnt far off from a Procharger but how much power is really needed on a car that will never be at the track..
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Originally Posted by mac62989
You know what your right. Its something I have been thinking about. Dyno numbers are great but how much is useable. I started this thread to get input and some ideas as this project is at least 8 months down the road. I go back and forth a lot but Im still up in the air. When I looked at cost a good H/C/I isnt far off from a Procharger but how much power is really needed on a car that will never be at the track..
Been there before. 430rwhp is fun and can be done with a budget H/C setup.
Your car would be capable of mid 11's@120...But bet the farm on it, after a few months of 430...your going to want more

Everyone is different and has there own opinion on this, but for me, with stock suspension/Drag radials and a 625rwhp/600rwtq twin turbo setup....That was enough for me. You couldnt put the pedal to the floor without the car going sideways unless you were above 60 mph. I turned the boost down to 10psi and was around 525 or so.
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Originally Posted by 30th t/a
Been there before. 430rwhp is fun and can be done with a budget H/C setup.
Your car would be capable of mid 11's@120...But bet the farm on it, after a few months of 430...your going to want more

Everyone is different and has there own opinion on this, but for me, with stock suspension/Drag radials and a 625rwhp/600rwtq twin turbo setup....That was enough for me. You couldnt put the pedal to the floor without the car going sideways unless you were above 60 mph. I turned the boost down to 10psi and was around 525 or so.
Thats the thing I dont wanna put the money in H/C/I and regrett not going FI when I want more power. I also dont wanna go for big power and have a car I dont wanna drive on the street because traction is non existent and **** keeps breaking on me. As I get older and get out of school my car will be depended on less and less and will become a strictly sunny day/weekend car. As it sits now and Im only 22, I put a little over 2,000 miles on it a year.
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I love my h/c ls2, even if I had the choice....id still stay n/a but thats just me. Seen ALOT of cars making killer power with boost but its just not for me, rather get 8-12mpg making 650+ rwhp n/a with a 440ci monster
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Well Ive been re-exploring my options again. For a high end H/C/I setup from AFR im looking at around $4900. These days I see sponsors selling D1SC kits for around $5500. I still have an AI package in mind but I dont know if Ill get everything Im looking for.. although it would be the most affordable..
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H/C with nitrous...Its perfect reliable and cheap! Puts down great power too.

..and you can tell all your friends you have NAAAAWWWWZZZZ
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Any decisions made yet?
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I dont know if you followed my old wheel thread but I cant make up my mind for **** on anything for my WS6. One thing I do know is that I graduate in 3 weeks. Even before I get my first big boy job I will have a good amount of change to spend. Im leaning on HC 241s, 228/232, FAST. Great power on a good budget. Instead of going with boost and adding in the price of a rear end or going all out on say an AFR H/C/I setup. I think for me keeping this car simple and going all out on the next toy (hopefully a C6Z or C7) is best. I want that nice lope from the WS6 while its hopeful stable mate will be more of a supercar in a way. A boosted vette sounds like a blast.
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I've got about $2700 in my build with everything needed for a H/C swap doing it in my garage. Injectors, UD pulley, timing chain, oil pump, gaskets etc. I did add a FAST 92 later so add $800 on top of that. Does not include a tune but either setup will need it obviously. Plan for a clutch because the LS6 won't be able to hold the power your throwing at it. That's another 1k if you have someone else do it.

It's a fun car but if I could do it again I would have went for a D1SC so I could up the boost when the car was ready. It would have been quite a bit more money though. 450rwhp is nice but I already want more a year later. I think around 550rwhp would be a good balance of having enough power vs. too much.
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^Thats the thing thats tough. I know ill want more (doesnt everyone?). Im trying to put it into perspective though, my next toy could be more of an all out build. In my mind it makes more sense to not go all out on the WS6 and save more money for a future project. In the next few years I plan on adding a Vette, GTR, or Viper. I dont know if $10,000 on a blower, rear end, and all the extras is worth it now. Id rather have a 600+ hp vette than a 550 hp WS6..
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I hear you man. Im going through the same thoughts. I planned on heads cam and maybe intake for around 430rwh or so but then I see these guys making 100rwh more from a freaking procharger. wtf to do!
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Originally Posted by mac62989
^Thats the thing thats tough. I know ill want more (doesnt everyone?). Im trying to put it into perspective though, my next toy could be more of an all out build. In my mind it makes more sense to not go all out on the WS6 and save more money for a future project. In the next few years I plan on adding a Vette, GTR, or Viper. I dont know if $10,000 on a blower, rear end, and all the extras is worth it now. Id rather have a 600+ hp vette than a 550 hp WS6..

If I had plans to sell my car in a few years honestly I would just throw a 100-150 shot on it. Easy to install and remove...your not out much money.
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Originally Posted by BrntWS6
If I had plans to sell my car in a few years honestly I would just throw a 100-150 shot on it. Easy to install and remove...your not out much money.
Thats the thing, I never said I was selling mine.. Just adding to the stable. Plus the only gas I like, I get at the dentist
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I'll go a little differently and say don't do either. Given that you haven't made a decision in almost a year my vote is you just save your money, drive this as is and take that 10k or whatever saved cash you have now and put it down on that viper or vette now. Rates are as low as they will be for a while and you'll get a cheap payment as the cars are cheap now. for 2000 miles per year that you are driving this, it's not worth that kind of investment especially if you think you'll really buy a viper/vette soon.
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Originally Posted by merim123
I'll go a little differently and say don't do either. Given that you haven't made a decision in almost a year my vote is you just save your money, drive this as is and take that 10k or whatever saved cash you have now and put it down on that viper or vette now. Rates are as low as they will be for a while and you'll get a cheap payment as the cars are cheap now. for 2000 miles per year that you are driving this, it's not worth that kind of investment especially if you think you'll really buy a viper/vette soon.
I dont think I can leave it as is. I started this thread early anticipating this summer as I graduate tomorrow. Im gonna worry about a nice DD first and then start putting money aside for the next toy. It will be H/C though just not sure which route ill end up going.



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