mac62989

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Wasnt sure where to put this so here it is. Next summer I am looking to finish my car and was pretty much set on AI 241s and a EPS 226/230 Cam. Full bolt ons with that Cam are anywhere between 395-410 rwhp. I figure the AI 241s could get me in the 435 rwhp+ range. I never considered FI but after looking at P-1-SC1 I know I can get in the 475rwhp range on maybe 7PSI. My car will never see the track and is pretty much a summer/nice weather/weekend ride. My question is whats a more reliable setup? What will leave me with the closest to stock setup? I have read that on higher boost the stock bottom end wont last long. I dont know much about FI and I think the H/C setup will be alot cheaper but Im looking for some imput. Thanks in advance.

Rise of the Phoenix

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I'm sure this will get moved, but it's a good question; one I've been debating myself. You can't really go wrong with either. What is your horsepower/torque goal? It's probably going to be cheaper going the head/cam route, but you've got more power pottential with the Procharger. I'll be interested in some other's feedback as well.

mac62989

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I guess anything 425+rhwp and around 400 ft lbs of torque. The blower def does have more potential but I wouldnt ever wanna run high boost were I would have to worry about going to a forged bottom end. Like I said the car will never see the track and I dont street race.

manfred717

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If your not going to race it at all, what is the point in making that much power? Not being a dick, I just don't see any logic in it.

30th t/a

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Ive had both, IMO, the H/C setup will have less maintance and will be a "set it n forget it" set up. The procharger will drive just like stock and make more power but you have to keep up with maintance. Id go with a 8 Rib D1SC.

mac62989

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First off theres one track somewhat close to me. Secondly I would like to have a fun powerful toy I can take out from time to time. Im not saying I want a 900hp twin turbo setup. These days anything over 400+ isnt even alot of power.

mac62989

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Can you please elaborate on the maintenance?

Grr

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ive also owned a H/C setup, a large blower setup, and a turbo setup. For a street car with a choice between stock motor+boost, or H/C, I would do the H/c setup. The maintenance on boosted applications is alot of work, witn belts, bearings in idlers, headunit oil changes, etc. Also I find myself alot happier with a good sized cam than having a really fast setup anyway, nothing like sitting at a stoplight shakin windows

Jimmy P

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Based on these two questions, its hard to beat a heads/cam car. Yes a supercharged car will make more power, but do you NEED that extra power if what you are looking for is realibitly and closest to stock?
I have had Procharger kits in the past, including a D1SC setup, and a maxed out F1C setup that made big power..Its fun, but not reliable. I currently have a h/c LS1 car that makes less than half the RWHP of what my F1C car made, but its more fun because I drive it more.

01ssreda4

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I like the H/c with this application. A.I. is one of the best in the business.

30th t/a

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You would need to change the oil in the Procharger head unit and change the belts.Alot of people use to have problems with belts slipping on high boost setups but I think the 8 rib pulley fixed most of that.

The nice thing about the Procharger (or Turbo) is that you can make anywhere from 400rwhp - 700+rwhp all on the same setup with added forged pistons & rods. With the H/C your stuck making 425-475 depending on what cam/intake/exhaust setup you run.

*02WS6TURK*

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+1 AI w/ the EPS cam FTW

mac62989

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Turk I like your setup. Yours isnt too lopey is it? Ive heard the EPS cams reduce the valvetrain noise over a stock setup and ride like a stock car.

WS6RED2002TA

I would go AI but with 243's. I ran a guy at the track that had a procharger setup. It was a 2001 Z28. He owned the car for about a week and was told by the original owner that the car also had a blower cam. I could honestly not hear the cam at all. He said it dyno 475rwhp in GA. We stayed side by side until fourth then I started to slowly pull away. At the end of the 1/4 mile track with me ahead about 1/4 car length. His car pulled really good but I was a little supprised at the outcome.

*02WS6TURK*

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Thanks dude! Not too lopey at all. It's perfect IMO. My Magnaflow exhaust quiets it down but sounds mean once you open her up. My valvetrain is pretty quiet too. Like mentioned about by ws6red, I would ditch the 241's (although you can net good gains from them with AI's work if you are on a budget) and go for the new revised 243 heads AI offers. I've spoke to Phil & Ron a few times about them and I'm sold. I am going to pull the trigger on them sometime in the near future. They will compliment my set up nicely and should put me in the neighborhood of 460-465rwh range.

mac62989

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Ill check out the 243s. Sounds good.

Rise of the Phoenix

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I doubt you'd be dissapointed with a nice head/cam setup.

nandos_z28

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Heads and cam and then if you wanted more power later on put some spray on it.

mac62989

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GM "Yellow" LS2/LS6 Springs .560" Lift/New GM LS2 Retainers & Locks. Would that work with a 226/230 cam?

*02WS6TURK*

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Go with the Pac 1518 springs.