Patriot 5.3 and F11 dyno numbers
03-27-2004, 09:22 AM
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Great #'s.. You cant compare mph w/out having the exact same raceweight, gears, tires and suspension setup. To add further I have beaten cars that trap 5 mph faster at the track than I on the street and they are lighter than me by 300lb or more. My point is you really cant compare #'s w/out both using the same dyno, same track, same basically everything.
03-27-2004, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tally TransAm
uncapping the cutouts yielded 410.5 hp and 400.4 ftlbs, but the dyno cut off at 5600 and we couldnt get it to work after that.
03-29-2004, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BadAndy
Hmmm I'm not sure those heads are working well for you. My friend put down 409hp/390tq today, cam only. Just the F11 and pacesetter headers. Iy makes geting a set of heads seem a little pricey for that kind of gain.
03-29-2004, 07:00 PM
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Dude i'm sorry but someone's gotta say this. Didnt u see smallwood run the same trap as you (117 or 118 i believe) and he is on street tires vs you 315 drs. He is also on STOCK heads with a very similar if not the same cam as you. Put your stockers back on and go run the car and i guarantee you you wont loose a whole lot. Those heads are a waste of fawking money! Btw you guys dynoed almost exactly the same too.
03-29-2004, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKWS6
Dude i'm sorry but someone's gotta say this. Didnt u see smallwood run the same trap as you (117 or 118 i believe) and he is on street tires vs you 315 drs. He is also on STOCK heads with a very similar if not the same cam as you. Put your stockers back on and go run the car and i guarantee you you wont loose a whole lot. Those heads are a waste of fawking money! Btw you guys dynoed almost exactly the same too.
If they can find a way to put down your heads, they will.. I've been listening to it for almost 2 years and yes... it does get old. Just look in their sig and if it says TEA, disregard their comments 
They are probably just pissed about having to wait a month to get their heads 
Disclaimer (as Ron would say) this is in no way a flame on TEA or anyone else for having a month or so wait to get a set of their fine heads. Last edited by gomer; 03-29-2004 at 07:11 PM.
03-29-2004, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Tally, you have to overlook some of these guys, they have their heads so far up their asses that they can't see anything else. If they can find a way to put down your heads, they will.. I've been listening to it for almost 2 years and yes... it does get old.
If they can find a way to put down your heads, they will.. I've been listening to it for almost 2 years and yes... it does get old.
tally trapped over 120 from what i understand...why and how are you gonna knock #'s like that? He didnt make a full dyno pass so you cant even use the #'s posted for comparison sake.
03-29-2004, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Tally, you have to overlook some of these guys, they have their heads so far up their asses that they can't see anything else. If they can find a way to put down your heads, they will.. I've been listening to it for almost 2 years and yes... it does get old.
If they can find a way to put down your heads, they will.. I've been listening to it for almost 2 years and yes... it does get old.
I dont really get that. I would be kinda pissed.
03-29-2004, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKWS6
Well i can see Josh's lil 5.3s makin more power than those LS6's. I dont really get that. I would be kinda pissed.
I dont really get that. I would be kinda pissed.
Btw, I'm on a mail order tune from my TSP cam too.. guess if I would have paid to have Alan dyno tune my car.. I could have gotten some more out of mine, but like I said, stay tuned nutswinger.
03-29-2004, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Josh's heads are hand finished and mine aren't, mine are right off the shelf, NO massaging (or massingilling, whatever you want to call it)... in three weeks he'll have to strap his **** down again.. the real dyno ***** will be back.
Btw, I'm on a mail order tune too.. guess Alan could have gotten some more out of mine, but like I said, stay tuned nutswinger.
Btw, I'm on a mail order tune too.. guess Alan could have gotten some more out of mine, but like I said, stay tuned nutswinger.
BTW...got any other excuses as to why he made more hp/tq?
03-29-2004, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Josh's heads are hand finished and mine aren't, mine are right off the shelf, NO massaging (or massingilling, whatever you want to call it)... in three weeks he'll have to strap his **** down again.. the real dyno ***** will be back.
Btw, I'm on a mail order tune from my TSP cam too.. guess if I would have paid to have Alan dyno tune my car.. I could have gotten some more out of mine, but like I said, stay tuned nutswinger.
Btw, I'm on a mail order tune from my TSP cam too.. guess if I would have paid to have Alan dyno tune my car.. I could have gotten some more out of mine, but like I said, stay tuned nutswinger.
Wait a minute, is it just me or do i recall YOU saying that your heads are indeed hand finished by terry. Correct me if i'm wrong but i could find the thread in here somewhere...Oh and seems kind of weird that your heads are the only ones making over 450, everything else i've seen has been in the 430s or even lower hasnt it? whats up with that?
03-29-2004, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKWS6
thats not what i heard about those heads. bu then again....you know how "hear-say" goes.
BTW...got any other excuses as to why he made more hp/tq?
BTW...got any other excuses as to why he made more hp/tq?
That's all that matters to me, you guys have pissed me off now and made me spend some money, we'll see if I get a return on my investment, and I promise you I'll have spent less than one of those "summer's eve" signature series sets of heads cost. Btw.. for the ones that will cry "track times".. I don't give a **** about track times, so don't start with me. 
03-29-2004, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyBosnian
Wait a minute, is it just me or do i recall YOU saying that your heads are indeed hand finished by terry. Correct me if i'm wrong but i could find the thread in here somewhere...Oh and seems kind of weird that your heads are the only ones making over 450, everything else i've seen has been in the 430s or even lower hasnt it? whats up with that?
03-29-2004, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
I'll let the numbers from the next dyno session do the talking.... That's all that matters to me, you guys have pissed me off now and made me spend some money, we'll see if I get a return on my investment, and I promise you I'll have spent less than one of those "summer's eve" signature series sets of heads cost. Btw.. for the ones that will cry "track times".. I don't give a **** about track times, so don't start with me.
That's all that matters to me, you guys have pissed me off now and made me spend some money, we'll see if I get a return on my investment, and I promise you I'll have spent less than one of those "summer's eve" signature series sets of heads cost. Btw.. for the ones that will cry "track times".. I don't give a **** about track times, so don't start with me.
03-29-2004, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
I'll let the numbers from the next dyno session do the talking.... That's all that matters to me, you guys have pissed me off now and made me spend some money, we'll see if I get a return on my investment, and I promise you I'll have spent less than one of those "summer's eve" signature series sets of heads cost. Btw.. for the ones that will cry "track times".. I don't give a **** about track times, so don't start with me.
That's all that matters to me, you guys have pissed me off now and made me spend some money, we'll see if I get a return on my investment, and I promise you I'll have spent less than one of those "summer's eve" signature series sets of heads cost. Btw.. for the ones that will cry "track times".. I don't give a **** about track times, so don't start with me. 
03-29-2004, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKWS6
Well the next time i get called out for a dyno race, can i borrow ur car?
Too bad they don't have a "mouth dyno".. you'd set some kind of record I'm sure. I'm done with this thread, if you have anything else to say to me.. send it via a PM and I'll be happy to get back to you on it.
03-29-2004, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Only if you want to win. I like Josh and have shared alot of good info with him over the past few months. I'm not going to talk bad about his car because I have alot of respect for him.. because I know what's involved with putting together a setup that's capable of the dyno numbers that he and I have achieved... it's people that "talk" that ruin it.
Too bad they don't have a "mouth dyno".. you'd set some kind of record I'm sure. I'm done with this thread, if you have anything else to say to me.. send it via a PM and I'll be happy to get back to you on it.
Too bad they don't have a "mouth dyno".. you'd set some kind of record I'm sure. I'm done with this thread, if you have anything else to say to me.. send it via a PM and I'll be happy to get back to you on it.
And i kinda take that as a compliment...been tutoring under one of the best....Cammin Jerk.....
03-29-2004, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Tally, you have to overlook some of these guys, they have their heads so far up their asses that they can't see anything else. If they can find a way to put down your heads, they will.. I've been listening to it for almost 2 years and yes... it does get old. Just look in their sig and if it says TEA, disregard their comments They are probably just pissed about having to wait a month to get their heads Disclaimer (as Ron would say) this is in no way a flame on TEA or anyone else for having a month or so wait to get a set of their fine heads.
If they can find a way to put down your heads, they will.. I've been listening to it for almost 2 years and yes... it does get old. Just look in their sig and if it says TEA, disregard their comments They are probably just pissed about having to wait a month to get their heads Disclaimer (as Ron would say) this is in no way a flame on TEA or anyone else for having a month or so wait to get a set of their fine heads.and i dont know who smallwood is, but i saw ken, who dynoed almost the exact same i did, running 12.5's at 115-116 all day (with his 4.11's) when i was running 12.0-12.1 at mid to high 118's all day (with 3.42's)
i think the heads are doing just fine
and i dont even wanna here **** about josh's car until it goes to the track and pulls 126+ traps, or is it gonna be another year or so until we see the infamous damian the dyno god hit the track
how did you run on sunday blkws6?
03-29-2004, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKWS6
Well i can see Josh's lil 5.3s makin more power than those LS6's. I dont really get that. I would be kinda pissed.
I dont really get that. I would be kinda pissed.
This guy ran 120+mph Josh should murder that...