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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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AI cnc'd 243s
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415/380

I only picked up 30rwhp going from 853 heads to the ported 243s....I was hoping for 430 with this setup.
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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30rwhp is a good gain honestly. Seems right to me for LS6 intake and ported stock TB. Seems like an honest dyno, not an internet hyped up dyno queen.

What tires, gear, wheels, MAF, trans, flywheel?
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What size are the inj?
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True duals will get you 430rwhp
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Are these numbers after timing was pulled for the 100 shot listed in your sig? That's another thing to consider.
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Auto, M6? Stall unlocked on dyno, clutch slipping?

What kind of dyno? What was the WOT AFR and timing?

**** dyno numbers, they can be all over the place. Take it to the track and see what it traps, assuming its tuned properly.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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30-40 hp from those heads are about right.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
30rwhp is a good gain honestly. Seems right to me for LS6 intake and ported stock TB. Seems like an honest dyno, not an internet hyped up dyno queen.

What tires, gear, wheels, MAF, trans, flywheel?
18" rear wheels with 315 m/t, 342 gears, tuned SD so no maf, stock M6 trans, stock flywheel

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What size are the inj?
42lbs

Originally Posted by krobinson123
Are these numbers after timing was pulled for the 100 shot listed in your sig? That's another thing to consider.
no I have a IAT mod to pull the timing. Car made 518/500 on the 100 shot.

AI states 20-30 wheel gain from the port. And going from the 853 head to the 243 I was just expecting to make more I guess. I understand the dyno is just a tool...
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18" rear wheels with 315 m/t, 342 gears, tuned SD so no maf, stock M6 trans, stock flywheel



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no I have a IAT mod to pull the timing. Car made 518/500 on the 100 shot.

AI states 20-30 wheel gain from the port. And going from the 853 head to the 243 I was just expecting to make more I guess. I understand the dyno is just a tool...
This will not help you get more rwhp on a dyno. I did 404 with a ported FAST 92 combo, lightweight flywheel, stage 3 243s, U/Ds and other similar boltons as you. So youre not the weakest H/C

But I dont care cause my weak H/C/I is capable of 117-119 on the 1/4..
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I gained 55 rwhp from the addition of AI 243s over stock 241s. I had a Fast 92/NW 92 though.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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still a 500 hp ls1 is a fast car!!
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Dyno numbers areNT everything, but you should be over 400rwhp or close to with the MS3 on stock heads alone.
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Got a Graph? Mustang Dyno?
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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different results. I would look at your 1/4 mile times and go from there.
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you should be over 400rwhp or close to with the MS3 on stock heads alone
On a car that made 270 at the wheels stock? 130 horses with an MS3 and headers? Man, I don't know about that.

This might be a dumb question, but you retuned with the new heads?

Are both dyno numbers from the same place? If not, forget about it; if so, as the other folks have said, dyno numbers are a pretty arbitrary thing. You aren't going to tape your dyno sheet to the windshield; does it FEEL fast? If so, why sweat the dyno sheet?

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Originally Posted by krobinson123
Are these numbers after timing was pulled for the 100 shot listed in your sig? That's another thing to consider.
Yup!, Didn't see his sign but I'm thinking that's why as well now
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Originally Posted by smokeshow72
This might be a dumb question, but you retuned with the new heads?

Are both dyno numbers from the same place? If not, forget about it; if so, as the other folks have said, dyno numbers are a pretty arbitrary thing. You aren't going to tape your dyno sheet to the windshield; does it FEEL fast? If so, why sweat the dyno sheet?

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yes it was retuned, and the dyno was from the same place.

Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Yup!, Didn't see his sign but I'm thinking that's why as well now
I have a timing box for my spray....
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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I think those are realsitic numbers, not low. This is my graph of my old 346 setup that is very similar to yours.

I had a 346 stock bottom end ls6 intake, full boltons, stock rear 3.90 gear locked 4l60e converter(4000), TSP ported LS6 heads, 235/243 cam

My car is full weight and I weighed(Well back then lol about 210 lbs) and it would trap 113 - 115mph all day long.

http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/x...4/DSCN0932.jpg
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Definitely not the lowest I've seen. Nice gains, I'm looking forward to any races you get with the new mods!
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My old friend pulled 430rwhp with H/C as well full bolt ons. Its about 15more then you but as stated above doesnt matter take it to the track and see what it runs. Some will say they pull 450-460rwhp with your set up and some will be lower, maybe on another day you will pull higher. If you can do 120+mph in the quarter, your car runs strong. With a Fast Intake Manifold and bigger throttle body you will gain more and be a little happier with your numbers but dont get caught up too much.
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