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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
Gomer - dude, my car's a street car too, but I like going to the track. Not cause I like pissing away 50 bucks to race on a **** track either (long island dragway). That's the true test of a car's ability, and my car's ability isn't all that as of yet. LOL But what's so enjoyable about dynoing or posting dyno numbers for that matter? That's just BS stuff to me. It's like that kid on MAD TV, "look what I can do". LOL
Like I said, that's what I enjoy doing... and if you are ever down this way, look me up and I'll show you what I can do The dyno numbers directly relate to how good a car runs on the street. From a 20, there isn't anything around here that can touch it. Maybe I need to change the sig from "Dyno Queen" to "Highway Running Queen". I just don't like the idea of taking my car to the track and breaking **** , but obviously there are people ( like you ) that enjoy that. I just don't know what's enjoyable about doing that. I'd rather just post my dyno numbers and not have to fix stuff.

If you have anymore questions or comments, PM me about them.. let's not get this anymore off subject than it has already gotten.

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Impressive #'s!!

I need to get a cam picked for mine soon, it's killing me.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
If I say something smells fishy, I'm going to be labeled a PP basher. Oh well, here goes nothing.

First of all he dynoed with an M6 but ran 11.31 w/ a TH400. Hmmmm. Why post dyno numbers with the M6? Didn't you re-tune/dyno after the tranny swap? What did it dyno w/ the Th400 in there? What did it run with the M6? Who did the tuning, since he's making the same numbers as TSP does in-house?

Second, member since march 04, has an 00 TA but never joined the board till he did PP heads and cam. Never needed to make any posts until he did the PP H/C? Hmmmm. No location listed either. Another Hmmmm.

Third, he says he's not about bench racing, but posts his dyno numbers. Didn't post in the dracing racing forum. Posted his track numbers here. 11.31 at what MPH? Hmmmm.

Gomer, I'm curious if you've ever run your car at the track or just the dyno. I see the Dyno Queen thing in your sig, but no times. You've made many changes to your car over the last few months, but I did a search and never any times. Why is that? Another Hmmm.

The only people I've read about running good with the PP setup are Trevor and Cain. Both have the relatively large Magic stick in their cars and one is the shop car and the other the shop pimp car. IE: cheaper parts and plenty of free dyno time. Yet another Hmmmm.

Most PP headed cars with PP cams or other cams are having a hard time making 400 RWHP. M6 cars included. Well, at least the ones that don't get the SWEET deals from PP or TSP.
kinda what chris ARE360 posted "there are the TSP cars and other sponsers that run good times"

and my reply was" you said it.'the sponsers run good times"

i dont wanna bash PP, i just havent seen the consistency with these heads. i know that a certain head porter has 6 pairs of PP heads that he is fixing and reworking. i wonder why?
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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Dyno numbers relate to how well a car runs on the street? Not really. Put 2.73s in your car, you'll dyno higher but will lose every race against a car with 460 hp and 4.10 gears. That's why I laugh when people say I dynoed such and such w/4.10s, would have been 10 HP more if I had 3.42s in there. Yup, sure would, and you'd also be slower. It's just another dyno trick, like removing your belt on the dyno. Do you run without one on the street?
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Ok enough PP love/hate back and forth. If you dont have anything constructive to say about THIS GUYS SETUP please keep it to yourself.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Like I said before, I went to his website, saw the video, read his reply and I got no problem. Good luck to you 2000TA guy.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Like I said, that's what I enjoy doing... and if you are ever down this way, look me up and I'll show you what I can do The dyno numbers directly relate to how good a car runs on the street. From a 20, there isn't anything around here that can touch it. Maybe I need to change the sig from "Dyno Queen" to "Highway Running Queen". I just don't like the idea of taking my car to the tracking and breaking **** , but obviously there are people ( like you ) that enjoy that. I just don't know what's enjoyable about doing that. I'd rather just post my dyno numbers and not have to fix stuff.

If you have anymore questions or comments, PM me about them.. let's not get this anymore off subject than it has already gotten.
Where are you from Gomer?
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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Mad i can make the swap in less than two hours
every thing is set up for quick change it takes some time to do all that the first time around but after that it is a easy swap

Silver i guess i should be a little more clear i do the swap cause i love my stick and will not give it up i will only be doing the swap when i need the car to run at its best and be consistant this will not be a weekly thing trust me
we are way to bussy at the shop to be doing that kinda of time wasting
also thank you for pointing out about DYNO TRICKS i have been doing this for 19 years and there is alot of ways to trick the dyno but i simple use the dyno as a tuning tool and too see what i gained with a mod or some time lost with a mod or differnt part
i am most worryed about how the car runs at the track
thanks for the positive comments guys
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TAguy
Mad i can make the swap in less than two hours
every thing is set up for quick change it takes some time to do all that the first time around but after that it is a easy swap

Silver i guess i should be a little more clear i do the swap cause i love my stick and will not give it up i will only be doing the swap when i need the car to run at its best and be consistant this will not be a weekly thing trust me
we are way to bussy at the shop to be doing that kinda of time wasting
also thank you for pointing out about DYNO TRICKS i have been doing this for 19 years and there is alot of ways to trick the dyno but i simple use the dyno as a tuning tool and too see what i gained with a mod or some time lost with a mod or differnt part
i am most worryed about how the car runs at the track
thanks for the positive comments guys
Do you run the same gears with both transmissions?
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Hey 2000TAguy, maybe you should mention that you ran that setup with a low stall and full interior with no weight reductions on the car. That setup is easily into the 10's with minimal work. Good numbers Todd!!
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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LOL I mentioned the dyno tricks for Gomer's benefit. The fact that your run full interior is something I like. Good luck with the car.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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Yes Mad i run the same rear gear a 410 for now
the reasion when you dyno or run at the tracj you are in fourth gear to dyno and should go through the traps in fourth gear
in the M6 that is a 1 to 1 gear same as a 350/400 third gear
and yes harris is right this a a total street car full interior 6 point mild cage with swingouts no weight loss
i set in the staging lanes and listen to the damn radio *LOL*
if i want to drive a race car i have a 68 camaro that can go 7.60's @180
this is a play toy a very fun one
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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My PP heads and Magic stick (one of the originals) got me 449 and 394 in a Vette. It was still making 440 plus at 6800 rpm.
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